Colorado Sec. 3 14th Amendment arguments made. Did Trump 'engage' in an insurrection?

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    people are trying to fabricate a reason for why he's not qualified. And in effect bar him from being able to be on the ballot.

    So yes that is happening.
    no it's not a misunderstanding. The question is not legitimate. Any relationship you have between the January 6th protest and Donald Trump is all completely fabricated.
    he's not a threat to national security he also doesn't eat puppies and he doesn't steal children's souls.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Taking trump off the ballot is election interference. It is now good when it was once ba'a'a'a'd!
     
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    So unqualified candidates should remain. Got it.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    He's not on the ballot. You can't take someone off the ballot if they are not on it.

    They have to QUALIFY first.

    That is the current process, to determine if Trump is qualified.

    Given the potential he is disqualified per the constitution, this is being determined in a court of law.
     
  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    This was never done for any Republican presidential candidate but until Trump.

    So, why Trump?

    1/6 is why.

    1/6 raises a fair question as to his fitness and his qualification for office.
    Oh, stop it.

    Any person who violates the constitution, conspires in a scheme to overturn the election, is a threat to national security and unfit for the office.

    4 co-defendants have already pled guilty. Chesebro pled guilty and he was the architect of the fake elector scheme. He flipped. So did Syndey Powell.

    I realize it's hard to accept that your guy is a criminal, sex abusing fraudster, someone who unlawfully tried to conspire to overturn an election, but, at some juncture, you will have to swallow the bitter pill of truth,

    Don't blame Democrats, blame Republicans for voting for this despicable human being in the first place, let alone allowing him to be the nominee.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In other words, he has a good chance, so disqualification is the most effective way to circumvent the will of voters.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    So much for "democracy"...lol

    Should Trump voters be punished?
     
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    Again another unfounded assumption is not Proof.
     
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    Trump didn't have any involvement in January 6th in fact he told the people to go home with love in their hearts. When you make up crap about Trump and then try and prosecute him for the crap you made up it makes you appear dishonest.

    why don't you say that to the insane justice department in this Colorado activism?

    Why do you support this underhanded criminal tactic do you really hate Donald Trump that much it will throw away the concept of Justice Just to stop him from running for election?
    Oh just stop with the conspiracy theories.

    There was no connection between Donald Trump and the criminal activity that took place on January 6th.

    Do you think Donald Trump is part of the JFK assassination too?
     
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    No he did not.
     
  11. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    All in the name of democracy...lol
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    If you're so "pro-democracy", then why not let Trump run for office?
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    That's your opinion, not a conviction in a court of law.

    Get with us when Trump is convicted of insurrection.
     
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    And the conviction isn't almost immediately vacated on constitutional grounds.
     
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    This particular judge can't declare Trump guilty of insurrection.
     
  16. Patricio Da Silva

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    Everyone has a good chance, so your point is meaningless.

    The will of the voters is irrelevant to the fact that an anti-democratic demagogue sex abusing criminal fraudster should not be allowed on any ballot where democracy is valued. Why? People are easily bamboozled by demagogues. Democracy is wonderful, but we have to protect it in constitutional ways, and section 3 of the 14th is constitutional. Don't like it? Complain to the ghosts of Mssrs Hamilton, Madison, et al.
     
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    Well, we'll just have to see. we have the Colorado court case, the GA court case, the FLA court case, and two court cases in NY.

    Something about Trump stinks so bad to attract that kind of legal trouble.

    No other republican in history has done that.
     
  18. Patricio Da Silva

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    Watch the videos, they are documented. I've presented my argument.

    Every democracy loving person who is rational will have contempt for an anti-democratic sex abusing criminal fraudster.

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/05/09/nyregion/trump-carroll-rape-trial-verdict
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You've_Been_Trumped
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-fin...ement-victims-donald-trumps/story?id=54347237
    https://www.citizensforethics.org/r...trumps-staggering-record-of-uncharged-crimes/
     
  19. Patricio Da Silva

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    Because he is a threat to US National Security, he is a Demagogue, he is a criminal, he is a fraudster, and a sex abuser.

    But, apparently that is not a good enough reason for you.
     
  20. Polydectes

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    There was no right trial it was a lawsuit. New York times either lying about what took place calling it a trial when it was a lawsuit or being so profoundly incompetent as to not know the difference renders everything they say about it unusable.

    Again we're talking about liability not guilt.

    I know you want to convict him of eating puppies and stealing baby souls but he's not the boogeyman you want him to be I'm sorry.
     
  21. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Fine, convict him in court and you do an end run around "our democracy". Until then, let democracy do it's thing. That's what you want. Right? Democracy? Or, do you only believe in democracy when it works in your favor?
     
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    Ok, NOW we know...LMAO!!
     
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    Yeah the difference is he isn't a swamp critter and he hurt their feelings because he didn't think they were as smart as they did. For that they will never forgive him fragile egos that they are.
     
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    So your tantrum trumps the will of voters? "We must protect democracy by limiting your choices!"
     
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    He not only "engaged" in it, he promoted it and "inspired" it. That is stating the obvious. Mind you ....to a Trumper, who sees things in opposite to the facts He did nothing wrong. Some have been heard calling him the "second coming"..... And THAT speaks to THEIR mental state ( delusional)
     
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