Common argument on voter ID law: it's not a big problem

Yes, we have seen that brilliant speech from the past before. Lol! They do not want everyone to vote because everyone voting means they lose elections. And that everyone is a huge swath of changing demographics of people in a hurry. That's what our buddy Paul was really talking about way back then. He saw it coming a long time ago. It's amazing how priorities and values change once your own comfort zone is threatened. Now the right wing is all about putting a dent in democracy by restricting those rights from those changing demographics of people they fear the most.

 

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It's all so VERY obvious.

And people need to fight back... HARD!!!

 

Looks like the fascist drones are once again having problems with reality...nothing new there.

They like pretending voter fraud isn't happening because THEY are the ones doing it. Their Masters benefit.

Al Franken stole the election in Minnesota. Every honest person recognizes this. As a result, a bill was passed out of the Senate illegally, with only 59 valid votes for cloture. Because that bill was a tax bill, it was doubly unconstitutional and has had massively damaging impacts to the nation's economy.

The Rodents pretend ObamaCare is a valid law....because they're as corrupt as a week old dead goldfish in a sewage treatment plant's sediment settling tank.

That's JUST ONE corrupt ballot cast by JUST ONE corrupt illegal Senator. That thing has been in office for six years now.

Then there's North Carolina, which proved that you Rodents cast 35,750 illegal votes in November 2012 alone. Plus the dead people. And the zombies are all for Rodents. Always have been.

That's JUST ONE state, 35,750 illegal ballots, for Rodents, in JUST ONE election. What have you Rodents done in the other 56 states?

You hypocrites say you support honest elections, your actions are what real Americans have come to expect people like you to do.

 

I'll go with a Social Security card with your finger prints if they come out with a finger print reader in more places. Does little good to have your finger print on the card if they can't check them when they need to. I'll go with a National ID card with a picture on it. Both would not only help in voting, but help keep illegals out. It will also open doors to the poor that were shut for them.

 

Don't you get tired peddling that Liberal lie? Every person can vote now. With absentee balloting, everyone can vote in their own home. Your ignoring that fact and peddling the same worn out Liberal lie.

 

That 90 year old woman who can't find her birth certificate and doesn't remember where she was born. Give her an ID let her vote. If she is on Social Security, she had to have her birth certificate then, so we know she is a citizen, no matter if she remembers or not.

 

When did I say that our current identification system is working? Obviously it is not. Photo identification is not enough we need something more.

 

When you can vote using only a utility bill, that isn't enough either. In many states you can get away with that. They make fraud so easy to do in this country. Even in Afghanistan, everyone had photo ID's. for last weeks election.

 

The source for the 11% is from this study by the Brennan Center. Another source

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That works in Afghanistan but not in the U.S.

 

Baloney! It is too simple a system not to work anywhere it is tried.

You are aiding and abetting Voter Fraud.

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I think they will.

 

If it can work in Afghanistan, it can work here. Let the government pay for the ID's no more excuses. The party only makes them up to keep cheating. ID's can cut down on cheating and cut down on illegals sneaking into this country. We need ID's.

 

did you even bother to read those "sources"? the first was nothing more than a telephone survey that only asked if the respondent possessed an id, not whether they could get one or the reason they didn't have one. the second merely cited the first survey and gave us the same anecdotal evidence we've seen a thousand times before.

 

The only thing that is obvious is the lame reasons Liberals are fighting ID's

 

When The Left can pull drunks and hobo's off the streets and under bridges to register and vote, we know how important it is to get every vote you can, even if you have to cheat to do it.

 

They need to hurry the hell up and get them. (That isn't super high-tech anymore.)

Your name and signature is all that needs to be on the card; your finger print will be on file with the State/Feds. (data base).
The fingerprint verifies that it's 'you' who is standing there and the signature (as before) shows that you did indeed vote.

None of the new cards will need any 'picture'; that is because a picture of you will come up on a screen when it is checked.

Really, this is OLDER tech nowadays, but it is good enough to take care of verifying who is standing there and ultimately end this stupid debate over voter fraud.

Illegals aren't voting in any significant numbers; virtually a non-issue. They would very likely not risk being 'discovered' AND going to jail, just to take a 'vote'.

Blacks, other minorities, the poor and the old are all targets of Right-with-controlled, Red State disenfranchisement.

 

Yes. The relatively sinister agenda of the far-right has triggered a voting movement in this society... and that is a good thing.

We've moved to far from the reasonable 'Center' as a nation, and we need to swing it back.

 

Crist? You mean the the guy who ran away from the GOP and pulled a Specter?

 

I'm almost for these laws myself. In the first place it would end this total buttlhurt BS the Republicans pull in EVERY election they lose about "massive voter fraud". In the second place I'm dead certain it would backfire on them big time. People who felt their actual right to vote was being threatened if they didn't register for some sort of state ID would line up like ticket buyers for the Superbowl, and once they went through all that trouble, do you think they're not going to vote? and do you think their vote will be for the person who caused them all this trouble in the first place?

Bring it on, it could mean the inevitable end of the Republicans as a viable political party a decade sooner.

 

I wasn't suggesting we had a lot of trouble with illegals voting as much as I am saying it could be used as a means of proof of citizenship to work. If it was a SS. card with fingerprints on it, we have taken away from them one of the main reasons for sneaking across our border. I may not be so against citizenship if I knew we have fixed our illegal problem instead of feeding it. That would do it without having to put thousands of more border patrol on. If they can't work without a permit or get citizenship, there is little reason to sneak into this country. We have just taken care of two problems at once.

 

Awww did one of the cult members get deprogrammed and spill the beans, the same thing happens with scientologists..and moonies....

 

With absentee balloting, people can vote in Tennessee from their home in Taxachusetts, even, and in Taxachusetts, too. The liberals are so excited about doing this.

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If she can't remember where she was born, let her vote, then burn the ballot. She's incompetent and should not be eligible to steer the nation any longer.

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And you've hit on the reason why it isn't used in the US. Rodents are allergic to honest elections.

 

If you have no more links than those from a jilted lefty, then I'll assume you have nothing.