Communists and Neo-Nazis fight in the streets! (Germany)

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by Anders Hoveland, Jun 10, 2012.

  1. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    Wrong. Such policies come from all sides of the mainstream political platform. Difference is the principle behind such action is different. Liberals are often deluded and ignorant where as conservatives (so-called) are often very much favorable of entirely totalitarian means of control. PF 'conservatives' are proof of this fact.

    I agree - both republicans and dems do this. But I wasnt talking about them.
     
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    Australians were much more crafty. Brought as criminals to the colony they once and for all purged their new home of Aborigines.
     
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    Exactly. The progressives are all about coercion and use political correctness as a method of enforcement.

    Wrong. The right is fiction. Almost everybody is on the left. There is no opposition to the liberal / left / Big Brother / globalist agenda in the United Kingdom. The current conservative party in the UK is just as unprincipled and intrusive as Labour. They're all singing from the same hymn sheet.
     
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    Every truly conservative englishman who could immigrated to the States long ago.
     
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    Fascism is not identical to generic authoritarian measures. Fascism is based on palingenetic ultranationalism. I know of no progressives having a palingenetic ultrantionalist tendency.

    You have still not defined communism.
     
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    They can't see they are fighting a battle that was caused by the ideology of the system they were born in (9/11 and the psywar and ideology by the system, put in their minds via the system's media (tv and youtube) over the past decade has caused this to happen)
    The 'communists' or 'leftwingers', and 'nationalists' or 'rightwingers' and the police have one thing in common, black uniforms, they are all part of the same system.
    Lets hope that this time over fifty percent of the German people stay awake and figure out in time what is going on again (their country is again becoming an empire, the whole world is, especially the West and the Middle East, again we are heading towards the same history as happened in Rome, the centurions also in red and black, this process is thousands of years old, again most people have no idea what is going on, and this how they can reach absolute power over the people, by one day warn them.

    This whole political/ideological process can go two ways, the same way as how it went in Germany. That is political split to 'nationalism' and 'socialism', or the warning by the media or politics. And if a political process does not work, we can expect the many non political problems (from revolution to civil war, from a false flag event to wmd accusation, or a border dispute, or espionage, and so on)
     
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    What does that even mean?
     
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    This is why Lenin said "fascism is capitalism in demise." When capitalism is in crisis, socialism rises in popularity. As a result, certain moderates, conservatives, and capitalists flood fascism in fear of communism, as it promises to crush communism. I'd like to think that those moderates, conservatives, and capitalists have learned from the past. SiliconMagician is, hopefully, and exception.
     
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    I expect you would like slavery back too? And TB? And witch-trials? The mods are sick of my being rude to reactionaries, so praise de Lawd.
     
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    American culture is anti-communist, praise de Lawd!
     
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    Generally, but not completely. America has a long and broad history of left-wing politics, communism included in that tale.
     
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    I have been calling the Conservatives Reich Wingers since I got to this forum :wink:

    The Conservatives lean towards Fascism, and the Liberals lean towards Communism.

    Communism > Fascism
     
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    Indeed, many of the things we hold dear are very Communistic. Social(ism) Security, unemployment benefits, affirmative action, civil rights, child labor laws, worker safety laws, 8 hour workday, minimum wage, public schools, foster care system, etc, the list just goes on and on. Even ending slavery was considered to be Socialistic lol, because it was, Karl Marx even wrote a letter congratulating Lincoln on saving an enchained race and helping the working classes.

    [video=youtube;ybmgUcecfLg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybmgUcecfLg[/video]
     
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    How can revisionists learn from the past? They simply revise history into being favorable to Fascism.
     
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    We both regulate, but in vastly different ways.

    "An inherent aspect of fascist economies was economic dirigisme,[4] meaning an economy where the government exerts strong directive influence over investment, as opposed to having a merely regulatory role. In general, apart from the nationalizations of some industries, fascist economies were based on private property and private initiative, but these were contingent upon service to the state.[5]

    In terms of economic practice, this meant promoting the interests of successful businessmen while destroying trade unions and other organizations of the working class.[7] Fascist governments encouraged the pursuit of private profit and offered many benefits to large businesses"

    As we all know, the left wing are against large businesses and in favor of the working class. We do not encourage the pursuit of private profit, rather we purse the profit of the Commune, hence our name, Communists. We are also Internationalists, not Nationalists, meaning we are far less prone to racism and bigotry of outsiders.

    "Historian Gaetano Salvemini argued in 1936 that fascism makes taxpayers responsible to private enterprise, because "the State pays for the blunders of private enterprise... Profit is private and individual. Loss is public and social."[9]"

    Sounds like Wall Street and General Motors.
     
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    From what I read the Skinheads held a demonstration then the Leftists sought to confront them. Just like the UAF seek to confront the EDL in the UK. Clearly the fault is with the left. The skinheads will win even if massively outnumbered.
     
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    Notice the article does not say from which side the demonstrators were arrested. Probably the leftists.
     
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    The leftists inevitably attack the police
     
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    It is certainly depressing every time you see those Neo-Nazi morons. Germany has nazi-based laws like we do here in Austria, only stricter. You're not allowed to do "pro-nazi" protests, and they should have stuck all those Neo-Nazis into prison. I cannot understand the level of a lack of education to support a Neo-Nazi agenda.
     
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    Actually I do not think intelligence is as big a factor as environment. My grandfather was a Detroit cop during the fifties and sixties. Absolutely hates black people. I wouldn't describe him as stupid. Lucky for me it didn't rub off on my parents who raised me to show respect to a person not a akin color.
     
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    I think you misunderstood me. I must have not been clear.

    It has little to do with intelligence. To be a Neo-Nazi it rarely means that the influence from the parents or even grand parents is too strong, but that the people are misinformed to a scary degree. After all, we are no longer in the 50s where the old Nazis still had some influence and tried to accommodate their history. Especially here, you get hit constantly with our dreadful past. You have to be really badly misinformed to support that, especially considering the loss of life over here.
     

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