Company offers to build 234 miles of border wall for $1.4 billion

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  1. Sahba*

    Sahba* Well-Known Member

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    Instead of succumbing to the demoralizing assault of the Liberal machine, day in & day out - this is how one company is rising above it all. Fisher Sand & Gravel Co - helping to 'Make America Great Again'! :)

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...uild-234-miles-of-border-wall-for-1-4-billion

    A U.S. company is offering to build 234 miles of President Trump's border wall for just $1.4 billion, a fraction of the $8 billion the Trump administration is hoping to use for that project.

    Fisher Sand and Gravel Company's President and CEO Tommy Fisher said the government is overpaying and said that for $4.31 billion, he can build the wall and incorporate paved roads and border technology plus warranty.

    "Our whole point is to break through the government bureaucracy," Fisher told the Washington Examiner. "If they do the small procurements as they are now … that’s not going to cut it."

    Broadly applicable, to more than just firearms, are Heston's famous rallying words bespeaking Freedom, Hope, Future & Liberty... The wall represents this in SO MANY ways!

    "From our cold dead hands"

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    Questerr Banned

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    So a company with zero experience working along the border and no experience with large scale building projects is able to make an accurate estimate costs?
     
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    This might be a bigger scandal than the construction of the railroads during Lincoln's time.

    Fisher Sand and Gravel wants to feed at the federal trough, like so many others.
     
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    Sahba* Well-Known Member

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    Your right, they shouldn't want to land a contract, grow their company, be part of a monumentally important - Nationalistic endeavor, lol.
    I do get being jaded though; I too am guilty of seeing the actions of the liberal progs through my own lens of disdain. At the end of the day though, I'm not willing to compromise and placate an opposition that wants to crush all the tenets that I hold dear. It has become a Machiavellian nation, fundamentally divided to its core. This is how I'm seeing things at this point; 'us' against 'them' (Sadly)...

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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Who wants to crush which tenets you hold dear? What does that have to do with feeding at the federal trough?
     
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    They have operations in 9 states. They also have their own concrete and asphalt plants, as well as their own quarries. I'm certain this 'large scale project' wouldn't be a problem for them.

    https://www.fisherind.com/
     
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    Mexican Labour... or illegal migrants?
     
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    Great game.

    I can build that wall for $1.399 Billion*. And I'll throw in the paved roads and stuff too. All I'll need is a quick couple hundred million in cash to start.

    *Course all the expropriation costs and such isn't included.
     
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    Throughout the history of the US, many if not all federal contracts have been extremely lucrative. The final product is often a POS, but companies can become quite wealthy. Look at the various military contractors getting rich off the war on terror.
     
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    Yeah, like that Whitefish contract in Puerto Rico.
     
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    Get off your lazy ass and click the link....your asinine response was the exact reason I put it there in the first place.
     
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    They have zero experience and their “estimate” is bullshit. Give these guys the contract and we’ll quickly find them running into “unexpected delays” and “cost overruns” and then $1.5 billion turns into $15 billion for half the distance they originally quoted.
     
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    They have zero experience with CONSTRUCTION. All they do is provide raw materials. And they are used to working in the Midwest, not along the border.
     
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    Given complete specifications any competent Civil Engineer could do that. Are they willing to pay penalties for work not done on time and guarantee no cost overruns? How much of a bond will they put up?

    And these bids are supposed to be sealed for a reason. Bidding wars can lower costs but they are also likely to ensure low quality.
     
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    Well there's some serious asinine on display in thread, that's for sure.
     
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    In your angst, you perhaps didn't consider the following:

    A. Building a road and putting up sections of wall isn't quite as complicated as throwing up the Taj Mahal.

    B. How do you know they have zero experience with large scale building projects (not that a wall really is, since it goes up in sections)

    C. Why does building on the border require "experience"?
     
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    Let us see the plans and specs because words are meaningless..Yet we never will see any plans or specs on material etc, etc.
     
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    Because it needs to have people who know what they be doing.
     
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    They're also one of the companies that designed and built one of the wall prototypes.
     
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    A. Building hundreds of miles of wall isn’t a small task.

    B. There own websites. This is a company that has provided gravel and asphalt to other companies and built a couple highway bridges. They’ve never done a large scale construction job before.

    C. Ever heard of a little thing called “international law”? How about “federal agencies”? Maybe you’ve heard of “eminent domain lawsuits”?

    How much experience does this company have dealing with protesters, that would be bound to show up en masse to any of their building projects?
     
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    You mean the company that build one of the wall prototypes doesn't know what they're doing?
     
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    Wow. So they can build a single 20 foot section of wall as a propaganda effort.
     
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    No. They don’t. They’ve never handled a large scale construction project in their history.
     
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    a. Sure it is. You put it up in sections one piece at a time.

    B. They designed one of the wall prototypes considered for the border.

    C. None of those things are worked on by construction companies.
     
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    Mmm no. They designed and built it.

    Now if they build a few thousand more, and stick them in the ground, you have a wall.

    Does the wall make you get all angry?
     

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