Confessions of a voter fraud: I was a master at fixing mail-in ballots

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  1. TheImmortal

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    https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/

    “A top Democratic operative says voter fraud, especially with mail-in ballots, is no myth. And he knows this because he’s been doing it, on a grand scale, for decades.

    Mail-in ballots have become the latest flashpoint in the 2020 elections. While President Trump and the GOP warn of widespread manipulation of the absentee vote that will swell with COVID polling restrictions, many Democrats and their media allies have dismissed such concerns as unfounded.

    But the political insider, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he fears prosecution, said fraud is more the rule than the exception. His dirty work has taken him through the weeds of municipal and federal elections in Paterson, Atlantic City, Camden, Newark, Hoboken and Hudson County and his fingerprints can be found in local legislative, mayoral and congressional races across the Garden State. Some of the biggest names and highest office holders in New Jersey have benefited from his tricks, according to campaign records The Post reviewed.

    “An election that is swayed by 500 votes, 1,000 votes — it can make a difference,” the tipster said. “It could be enough to flip states.”

    The whisteblower — whose identity, rap sheet and long history working as a consultant to various campaigns were confirmed by The Post — says he not only changed ballots himself over the years, but led teams of fraudsters and mentored at least 20 operatives in New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania — a critical 2020 swing state.”

    The democrat party is fully aware that the only way they can win is to cheat.
     
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    Omg a right wing tabloid newspaper with a mixed to low history of accurate reporting has an anonymous source!

    That does it, all mail in voting should immediately be ended — including by presidents and military personnel.

    Great catch guys, really
    You saved the election!

    If true, the NY Post has a duty to report this individual and his “teams” to the FEC for immediate prosecution. I don’t feel like that will happen for some reason though.
     
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    The bit blockchain patent, the announcement about unveiling things we haven’t seen before. I believe patriots are in control.
     
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    You realize that the vast majority of the voter fraud charges are about in person voting or registration, right.

    That kind of flys in the face of that being the only secure method, especially when counting the very rare instances of fraud through mail in voting (unless you count random anonymous sources)
     
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    The entire story is based on Anonymous Hearsay BS:

    But the political insider, who spoke on condition of anonymity

    The story has Zero Credibility and appears to be made up entirely out of whole cloth.

    I am certain that Bat Boy exists, but when you tell the world (about this TRUE Story) frame my statement by saying "But, the PF insider, who spoke on condition of anonymity".
     
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    Pretty simple stuff really.


    "He would have his operatives fan out, going house to house, convincing voters to let them mail completed ballots on their behalf as a public service. The fraudster and his minions would then take the sealed envelopes home and hold them over boiling water.

    “You have to steam it to loosen the glue,” said the insider.

    He then would remove the real ballot, place the counterfeit ballot inside the signed certificate, and reseal the envelope.

    “Five minutes per ballot tops,” said the insider."
     
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    I thought Anonymous sources were bad? This was drilled into me by the RW here when so much bad news about Trump came from anonymous sources.
     
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    Whoa!!! No way! That's Amazing a whistleblower. So satisfying. I can't believe it. What do you guys think? It sounds like Eric Ciaramella.
     
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    They are throwing mud on the wall to see what sticks. All in an effort to sow distrust in the elections.

    Maybe the people who believe this should actually test how easy it is to open a sealed envelope and reseal it without leaving any trace of tampering?
     
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    https://lifehacker.com/open-a-sealed-envelope-by-putting-it-in-the-freezer-5845438

    “Whether you forgot to include something with your letter or you have more nefarious schemes, this method should open up an envelope as if it were never sealed shut—with less mess than the more popular steaming method. Just throw it in the freezer for an hour or two (eHow recommends putting it in a plastic bag to keep it ice-free), then take it out and immediately open it with a knife or letter opener. Yes, you still have to open it, but if all went well, you should be able to re-set the adhesive with moisture afterwards, once it's reached room temperature.”

    Not that difficult it seems.
     
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    Let’s assume for a moment the story is true. Should mass mail in still be allowed?
     
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    So if political operatives have known about this for decades, then any and all results for the last 50 years need to be thrown out. Trump was elected illegally, and the entire Congress has to be opened up for new elections.

    If Trump wins with the current election system in place (cause this has been going on long before the 2016 election) then voters can use this information as proof that any and all election results are fraudulent. (if the Dems know how to do it, then the Republicans have done it as well).

    That's the problem when you start questioning the vote - it opens the door for everyone to question the validity of an election - and opens the door to either side declaring a vote fraudulent.

    If Trump wins, then it can only be the result of voter fraud. See how that works? It's not a one way street.
     
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    The article shows how easy it is to switch ballots with mail in voting. Democrats want more mail in voting while Republicans want less to none. Nuff said
     
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    Not really, it is the exact method used by Republicans in North Carolina a couple of years ago. Of course they got caught because of safeguards but it makes for a good conspiracy theory. You'd think they could come up with something original now and then but it is what it is.
     
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    If true, I'd say that people who hand their mail-in ballot to some stranger who promises that they provide a "service" to them by handling their ballot mailing, deserve to have their vote altered. Also, if true, you'd bet that the GOP would be no stranger to using this practice too.
     
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    But this guy is claiming to have done this BEFORE mass mailings, with the old system. So any prior election has to be questioned. Trump was elected
    using faulty voting methods. If Trump wins again, it will be with faulty voting methods. If Dems can use this method to cheat, then Republicans can use it as well (don't forget, that for every instance of voter fraud in the past by one party, we can find examples for the other).

    The only remedy will be mass marches by whoever loses the elections. More rioting, more shootings.

    It's what happens when one party starts preaching voter fraud ... both parties walk through the door.
     
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    That means that the hundreds of thousand of elderly (who tend to vote Republican) who can't make it to the polls will be shut out.
     
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    Simple solution here is stop mail in voting. Problem solved.
     
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    The key piece of /cough "evidence" used to justify the Russian hoax investigation was a dossier constructed from news articles referencing anonymous source. If that was substantial enough to launch that entire saga then it should be good here, yes no?
     
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    They can vote absentee which has safeguards.

    "Absentee balloting traditionally has been a means to participate in an election for voters who are unable to physically go to the polls, whether because of mobility issues such as an illness, travel on Election Day, military service, or residence on a college campus."
    "The main difference is [in] voting by absentee ballot, a voter has to request a ballot in most cases and fill out a form and sign to authenticate the request,”

    "With all-mail [voting], they just send out a ballot and without certainty it’s going to a live voter. “The problem with all-mail voting is that ballots are mailed to every registered voter. We know voter registration rolls are in bad shape all across the country, with multiple duplications and sending out ballots to people that don’t live there.”
     
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    Weird isn't it how they love anonymous sources, in this case an admitted criminal.
     
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    With today's technology, if a person wants to reproduce and falsify ballots, one can easily just request one absentee ballot and reproduce it.
     
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    I suggest you do a search on Leslie McCrae Dowless the North Carolina REPUBLICAN operative who was paid by the state GOP to harvest and alter mail in ballots in the 2018 state congressional race. He in turn paid other workers to go to the homes of those with mail in ballots ILLEGALLY collect them alter them including forging signatures then mail them in. He faces a $250,000 fine and a possible 10 year prison sentence.
     
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    Which is why the Democrats alone fight so vociferously for no excuse absentee balloting, same day registration, early voting, motor voter, no ID voting, and now universal mail-in voting.
     

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