Confusing Race for Privilege is a form of Racism.

This is something that I think should go without saying, but SO MANY so called "anti-racists" fail to recognize it. Even if white privilege exists, that does not mean that merely being white makes one particularly privileged or that they should be associated with or confused for those who are. This failure of logic leads to well off black folks being treated as if they are somehow less privileged than poor white folks. Social programs based on race instead of need are based on this error as well.

 

If there is any privilege to being white is that I'm not a representative of my race and I don't have to act a certain way in order to not act some other color.

I encountered this multiple times but one that sticks out I had a black English teacher in high school. She was a fantastic teacher and I loved being in her class. But she kept order and some of the misbehaving students that were black often accused her of acting white.

This is apparently quite an insult to a number of black people. But it's worse than that it's a way to keep people down through you're a shame to your race if you conform to society.

I've never been accused of acting black or brown or yellow, I think I'd be confused if someone did.

So that's the privilege I'm not ashamed in the mediocrity with solidarity to concept like race.

The misnomer is it's not a white privilege. It's something anybody can do.

 

Go tell Obama about it. He is black, so he claims, and he still has your so called "white privilege".

 

"White privilege" has always been a purposefully inaccurate term. It paints a picture of, well, privilege, that white people are apparently supposed to have because they are white.

Now, I get what is trying to be communicated with the term, and it's a real factor too. Racism against minorities has added hurdles in people's lives that white folks don't usually have to deal with.

But that does not translate into privilege for a white person. A much better way of describing it is the absence of a negative social resistance. Doesn't have the panache, the catchy jingoism that White Privilege has. It trades those things for accuracy.

It is entirely possible to discuss the concept without using "white privilege" as a rolled up newspaper to hit white folks over the head with.

 

If you lived in a land where most people were green and they had the dominate culture and you were a yellow minority whose culture was poorly regarded, what would you see? Greens chosen over you for jobs, greens not harassed by police and lighter sentencing, banks and money lenders prioritizing greens. I think yellows would call that green privilege

 

All races have a "privilege" in different areas both socially and other.

 

Sure. But please again read what you quoted. That does not address it.

 

Sure I did. White privilege is referring to a group and Black perception and experience in relation to that group. A general statement can be made about any group that is true for the group, but individual examples from that group may not agree. That does not negate the general statement about the group because it wasn't about an individual.

 

The point is that individuals should not be confused for each other based on a shared grouping based on a trait such as race. Doing so is actually the core of racial prejudice.

 

So programs to alleviate an injustice based on race, like red lining, are based on error and promote racial prejudice?

 

Is that just to make you feel better or do you have something in mind for Black privilege?

 

If done based on who were redlined then no. If done by race then yes. That's pure racial prejudice and discrimination. Treatment by racial proxy is exactly that.

 

Black privilege? You mean off the top of my head? Pretty sure black men are sought out for 1 night stands and the like because of the jungle fever, BBC myths. Do you see any like myths or fantasies regarding any other race? You can also say that they are highly athletic and favored in certain sports and events.

The last "non black" 100 meter record holder is like from the 60's or some ****. It just doesn't happen. Now either the entire olympic athletic body is racist, or it could be that the event seems to inherently favor black men. Thus giving them an advantage or privilege.

 

The confusing of having black skin for being poor can work as privilege or anti-privilege depending on the situation. Your example of a social program based on race with reference to historical redlining would be a case where it would be a privilege to be black.

 

Programs to alleviate redlining, which was done based on race were pure racial prejudice and discrimination? You are quite the ideologue.

Being used for sex is a privilege?
I recently went to a violin competition. Three quarters of the participants were East Asian and the winner was East Asian. Were they "privileged" or did they work very hard to get where they were?
So your comment was to make you feel better.

A Black being free of redlining would be a privilege? That is a reach.

 

I am actually against racial prejudice and discrimination. Are you?

Do you think a black person who immigrated later, or was born later, and who never experienced redlining should qualify for programs to alleviate redlining? Just because they are black? And since redlining was done according to place of residence it was done to some white people who also lived in the targeted areas. Should they be excluded from programs to alleviate redlining? Just because they are white?

A Black free from redlining who then is included in programs to alleviate it, isn't privileged based on their race? You are quite the ideologue.

 

They worked hard to get to where they were.

Yeah...being used for sex for men is a privilege. Show me a man who wouldn't love to get used for sex because society has created a myth that you are packin a big penis. What's the current running gag on the East Asian male penis? lol.

 

Privilege is a constellation of features. Age, gender, race, wealth, education, connections, sexuality, health, all play a role. Is wealth so important that it completely makes race irrelevant? No. Still would rather be a poor old lady getting stopped by a cop than a black kid, even a wealthy one. In the words of Rage, "[F'ing] with me 'cause I'm a teenager
With a little bit of gold and a pager
Searchin' my car, lookin' for the product
Thinkin' every [black person] is sellin' narcotics"

 

deleted, nevermind don't want to talk about that, lol

 

Irrelevant as a proxy? Yes. Race may be relevant for whatever reason but it should not be used as a stand in for wealth. Programs meant to help the poor and underprivileged should be targeted at the poor and underprivileged, without confusing that with being any particular race.

That issue of "driving while black"; police being auspicious of a black man driving an expensive car because they figure it can't be lawfully his is an example of exactly what I am taking about; confusing race for something it isn't; here poverty or criminality.

It is reinforced, not fought against, by so-called "anti-racists" (racists) who presume being black means being poor and base aid on that.

It is pure racial prejudice and discrimination.

 

Believing a level playing field for home buying Blacks is a privilege? Who’s the ideologue?

And the legacy of redlining continues. Old redlining maps are still being used in algorithms used to estimate housing prices. Homes in traditional Black neighborhoods are priced less.

In a much publicized case in my city a Black woman got two appraisals on the worth of her home and she felt she was being shorted, so she removed family pictures and African art and then had a white male friend there for the appraisal. The value more than doubled. She may have been originally from Canada for all I know.

 

You are, if you think being the same race as somebody who is not you isn't on an even playing field means you yourself are not on an even playing field. That's pure racial prejudice. If you think you should benefit because somebody else who is the same race as you suffered, that is too.

It is hard to know if you do, because you skipped over the very direct questions I asked you. Why?

These sorts of programs can and should be done based on who was actually wronged, not based on racial proxy for that.

Pushing black, poor, criminal, and underprivileged all as synonymous is the core root of racism against (and for) black folks. The more people push it, be they white supremacists or as a so-called "anti-racists", the more racism will grow.

The way out is to recognize us all as individuals and to address out individual needs, flaws, abilities, etc and not to pretend to do so by racial proxy.

 

Why don't they go live with other yellows then?

I do not get why people think the world owes them something? Change your reality, circumstances, put in the work.

Make choices, don't be weak.

I'm not on board with victim puke. Yuk!

 

Why do you keep capitalizing black. It's a color, not a justification or an excuse.
And why do we see in the press headlines like "Black teen killed by police", but never "Black teen arrested for murder"
And to put the whole slavery and reparations for something that happened centuries ago to rest. The first slaves were captives from tribal wars in West Africa, where the captives were sold to Portuguese traders as slaves. When the tribal leaders ran out of prisoners of war they began raiding nearby villages and taking all the occupants to sell as slaves, and when they had depleted all the local villages they began selling their own people as slaves. But the alternative to becoming a slave was the possibility of becoming a human sacrifice.
Funny that no mention is made of that in schools.
https://www.persee.fr/doc/cea_0008-0055_1965_num_5_18_3035

 

Poor white folks have white privilege.

Some people have wealth privilege, which is independent of race, but a poor white kid still has white privilege and Blue Ivy Carter does not, even though Blue Ivy is clearly much better off than a poor white kid.