Congress Demands War in Ukraine!

Just weeks after a European-brokered ceasefire greatly reduced the violence in Ukraine, the US House of Representatives today takes a big step toward re-igniting -- and expanding -- the bloody civil war.
A Resolution, "Calling on the President to provide Ukraine with military assistance to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity," stealthily made its way to the House Floor today without having been debated in the relevant House Committees and without even being given a bill number before appearing on the Floor!
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arc...015/march/23/congress-demands-war-in-ukraine/
This was their first tusk from the early beginning to escalate this conflict. The agrrements, ceasefire, OSCE missions were just playing on public. I think the BIG war will begin when the first planes with NATO arms cross the Ukrainian borders as it was decided long ago.

 

I don't want to see any escalation to this conflict, but it is hard to see what else to do when the Russians are continuing to supply weapons to the rebels, despite the cease fire. Seems to me that they are using it to rearm, which is contrary to what they agreed to do.

 

On the other hand, one might look closer to home for other factors driving the escalation?

From Robert Parry - The Consortium

 

Whether that's true or not, it's still none of our business. I can't believe how easily people like you swallow the bait and cheer on these US efforts to create and perpetuate military conflicts. How blind can you be?

But I know how it is. We're powerless to control our own government. We can't even protest it now. Try and you'll probably be ushered into a little "free speech zone" where no one needs to look at you or give a damn. More importantly, though, the government funds its wars through infinite borrowing and then taxes us to finance that debt. All they need to do at this point is keep the Kool Aid flowing to keep the opposition at bay, and of course guide political discourse to question not the basic validity of US military involvement abroad, but rather just exactly how and to what extent this war-generating monstrosity of a nation should get involved.

 

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Thanks for posting this. I'd like to point out another part of the Ron Paul Institute's missive;

"Congress wants a war in Ukraine and will not settle for a ceasefire!

The real world effect of this Resolution must be made clear: The US Congress is giving Kiev the green light to begin a war with Russia, with the implicit guarantee of US backing. This is moral hazard on steroids and could well spark World War III.

The Resolution conveniently ignores that the current crisis in Ukraine was ignited by the US-backed coup which overthrew the elected government of Viktor Yanukovych. The secession of Crimea and eastern Ukraine were a reaction to the illegal coup engineered by US officials such as Victoria Nuland and Geoff Pyatt. Congress instead acts as if one morning the Russians woke up and decided to invade Crimea and eastern Ukraine.

There is no mention at all of US backing for the coup -- or even that a coup took place!"​

This resolution went through the House with a vote of 348 to 48 with a little over 2/3rds of the Democrats voting for it, once again proving there is little difference between either party. (source) This is morally reprehensible to the highest degree. The big winner here? The military-industrial complex. The big loser? the thousands of innocent people that will die in the crossfire.
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A part that planes with NATO weaponry and equipment have been crossing the Ukrainian borderline for weeks and weeks and Russians haven't moved a finger ... [you know, to talk big is easy with Ukrainians, less easy with NATO ...]. So, I don't understand what you're talking about.

This said, to make it brief, Ukrainians are free to require NATO aid if Crimean guerrillas require Russian aid ...

 

I almost never accuse anyone of being a Marxist. And I am unsure that is the case here. However, I have to disagree with much of what is posted above, particularly this part:

"the State Department peddled a propaganda theme to the credulous mainstream U.S. news media about Putin having somehow orchestrated the situation in Ukraine so he could begin invading Europe."

That is factually in error. Moreover, it appears that he has put his services at the disposal of the Kremlin, judging from his other anti-western diatribes of late. Sorry, I'm not buying it.

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Excuse me? Where do you see me cheering on any efforts to perpetuate military conflicts?

 

I think that American politicians are composed of idiots and fools. What's the difference? Very simple. Idiots are those who tries to do what they do not know how, but they are stubborn and try. Although the results show - that the erroneous actions. But fools are those who do not even try to do something for yourself. The CIA has at least one fool and one idiot. Fool is the one who reads what idiot wrote. For Example - the head of the CIA, Brennan and the one who writes speeches for him.
The same pair are in Congress. I wonder if they know something about Russia? They are at least known % support for Putin? In Congress want a big war? They get it. No doubt.

 

I believe there is no implied delegation of wartime social Powers without wartime tax rates to prove the exigency exists under our form of Capitalism.

 

Thing are moving very fast in Ukraine, and it might just be a god send to some, but lead to a three way civil war that will affect just about everyone in Ukraine.. There is fighting going on between Poroshenko and Gov. Kolomoisky of Dnepropetrovsk. Kolomoisky is the oligarch behind the Odessa massacre, the bombings with white phosphorous in Slaviansk, and is suspected of the shoot down of the airliner. He is also in charge of private armies which have committed some of the worse atrocities imaginable on the people of Donbas.

Now comes the strange part. Zacharchenko the head of the Donetsk People's Republic has suggested he create the Dnepropetrovsk Republic, something that Kolomoisky probably wanted right from the start. Zacharchenko said he is the real head of he Dnepropetrovsk province anyway. Very strange bed fellows here!

 

It seems to me that Ukraine is essentially a gangster capitalist state in which various oligarchical interests are wrestling for their respective power bases and political allegiances.

 

Hey guys I have legitimate question. Is Ukraine a sovereign nation? Anyone?

 

Here is something:

 

Does anyone know if our federal Congress knows there is no appeal to ignorance of our Commerce Clause? Anyone?

 

It's supposed to be a cease fire, and yet the Ukrainian forces shelled the Donbass area fifty two times in the past twenty four hours. There are also reports of military transport planes landing at the Ukrainian airports non stop. Now what were you saying about Russians arming the freedom fighters?

 

According to a translation on Fort Russ, Poroshenko told Kolomoisky he's fired, and appointed another Governor. Now let's see what Kolomoisky is going to do?

I think we should take bets on who is going to win on this one. I read some accounts that it will be Poroshenko because he's backed by the Empire. Yet, other accounts tell of the cards Kolomoisky holds...such as Privat bank.

They say he was supposed to give up his private armies, and that it had to do with the Minsk agreement...but will he? And so the saga of the oligarchs goes on...

Did he say I'm fired, ha, ha, ha!

 

And now the latest in the saga of the oligarchs from the Vineyard of the Saker. Kolomoisky is preparing some kind of 'maidan' in Dnepropetrovsk for Wednesday. In order to prevent that, Poroshenko's death squads (national guard battalions) are heading for the city. This should be interesting. On one side we have Kolomoisky's 'Nazi' goons, and on the other, Poroshenko's 'Nazi' goons.

Let' the games begin ---

 

Russia is waiting to see what will United States and UK do. As for talking, Russia has always talked very clearly to NATO and to United States, since 2007/2008. They have been always extremely clear. In Dec-13 to Feb-14 they were also very clear about the democratic process around the EuroMaïdan stuff, but either galicians alone or galicians with euro-atlantists, refused to hear. So Crimea was gone back to Russia overnight. Without firing a bullet, without big talk, without any talk in fact, You get back there through archives news, and you'll see there was zero communication coming from russian channels in two weeks!

there's no guerilla in Crimea. Crimea is in Russia, not in Ukraine. There is an independantist war in Donbass. The point is not who gets support from who, but that euro-atlantists complain that if one part gets support from Russia it's bad, while when the other part gets support from United States and euro-atlantists, it's good. Double standards.
Ukraine is free to require NATO aid, yes, and Donetsk is free to require russian aid, and so on.

The big picture is that while pawns are moving in the foreground in Ukraine, strategies are being redone in the background, at continental scale. Russia doesn't need to do much, but United States is continuously obligated to spend around at simultaneous theaters of operations, in order to keep its web working: Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, a bunch of involvments in the Gulf and their relations with their best friends Saudi, the Pacific front against China, the ambiguous India, the treacherous Pakistan, the undecipherable Russia, the smart Iran, the unattainable North Korea, and more.
In Ukraine, Russia could generate just the necessary chaos to keep European Union busy. Like if EU needed more worries than Greece, Portugal, Spain, the bad fame of Juncker's tax laundering past, etc.

 

If we want to reason in terms of chessboard, we can say that while the US are playing using the white pieces [and so they are substantially forced to keep the advantage of move and to expand their control over the chessboard], Russia is playing using the black pieces, keeping a defensive stance, trying and gaining territorial advantage and if it possible the advantage of move [but this is not that essential if you play a defensive match].

In other words, Russia has seen its sphere of influence diminishing for a couple of decades. In the meanwhile the Western sphere of influence has increased towards East.

We could say that, on the chessboard, the whites are near to the defensive line of the black pawns ... beyond which the Kremlin has castled.

 

Evidence of that factual error please?

 

Not a single Member of Congress took the Floor to oppose this dangerous Resolution.

Passage of this Resolution should make it clear that the political leadership of the US will accept nothing short of war with Russia.

 

It's the continuing US balkanization strategy, breaking nations into conflicting regions, under the old British and Roman empire strategy of divide and conquer.

 

When is Congress going to start justifying wartime tax rates. Lowering taxes is a sure way to lose any really really serious relationship with a war god.

 

Anybody who wants a war in Ukraine needs to just go over there and do their own fighting.


Oh by the way, Vyacheslav Glazkov (Ukraine's national heavyweight boxing champion) just defected from his country in order to avoid the military draft and combat. If he is not willing to fight for his own country, how do you expect Americans to fight for him???








Oh by the way, isn't it funny how the right wing media attacked Muhammed Ali for avoiding the draft but has not done the same with Glazkov???

 

Maybe he believes in His social Contract and refuses to indulge any non-justified wars his elected representatives may get him into by appealing to ignorance of their own laws?

Or, perhaps he does not keep and bear Arms and does not want to have to be as well regulated as those who do?