Contrasting Christian & Jewish Holy Days....

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  1. Libhater

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    Christmas and Easter celebrate universal themes offering hope and salvation for all mankind. Christmas officially marks the birth of the Savior and celebrates the desire for "peace on Earth and goodwill toward men." Easter, a more somber occasion, represents the promise of universal salvation through the Resurrection of Christ.

    While Christians celebrate universal goodwill on their holy days, Jews celebrate historic military victories against their Gentile enemies.

    Near the time of Christmas the Jews celebrate Hanukkah, a commemoration of their military victory in 165 BC over their hated enemy, the Greek-descended King Antiochus IV of Syria. The victory finds its remembrance by the miracle of the long-burning oil lamps in their recaptured temple. As Christians enter the Lenten Season and prepare for the celebrations of Christ's offer of salvation, the Jews celebrate Passover, a holiday that is, again, based on an ancient conflict between Jew and Gentile. Passover is an unambiguous reference to the night when the spirit of death harmlessly "passed over" Jewish homes and descended into the homes of their hated Egyptian enemies, killing every firstborn male from newborn to elderly in all of Egypt. It may be shocking to put it this way, but in reality it is a celebration of mass infanticide.

    Another important Jewish holiday is the Feast of Lots, called Purim.

    Purim: A Jewish festival marked chiefly by the reading of the book of Esther and eating of hamantaschen, that is celebrated on the 14th day of Adar in commemoration of the deliverance of the Jews in Persia from destruction by Haman.

    The festival celebrates the Jewish massacre of thousands of Persians along with their prime minister Haman and his 10 sons. It even includes the symbolic eating of the supposed anti-Semite's ears (Haman's ears--hamantaschen) in the form of three-sided cookies. Another of the favored Purim foods is Kreplach, which is dough pockets again shaped in a triangle to denote Haman's ears, but these snacks are filled with chopped meat, symbolizing the beaten flesh of Haman. Another of their Purim celebrations invloves Jews beating willow branches in the synagogues meant to represent ther flogging of Haman.

    Special Jewish delicacies:

    1. "Haman Taschen" (Oznei Haman=Haman's ears)

    2. "Kreplach": chopped meat covered with dough, also triangular in shape. "Kreplach are eaten only on days on which there is both hitting and eating: Yom Kippur eve--the custom of Kaparot, Hoshanna Rabba--the beating the willow branches, Purim--the (symbolic) beating of haman.

    On these days it was traditional for there to be some sort of beating. On Yom Kippur in ancient times, men would be flogged before Yom Kippur and we beat the willow branches on Hoshannah Rabah. On Purim we beat out the name of Haman.

    Oh my what a coincidence....today marks the celebration by Jews (Hanukkah) of their victory of those Greek Gentiles. Excuse me for not joining in with the jewish festivities of their defeat of my Gentile people. Let me instead wish you all a very Merry and Peaceful Christmas. :sun:
     
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    Hmmm interesting observation, but I thought all neocons were pro zionists. confusing...
    No wonder Jews were expulled from dozzens of nations throughout history. thx for sharing. interesting stuff indeed.
     
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    The neocon/social conservative base are extreme "fallow the leader", "do what you're told", "keep up with the Jones" types. For the most, unread on politics and economics. They vote how their bishop, boss and guys at the country club vote. Regurgitated rhetoric, when challenged, incapable of going into details or offering something new. They have no clue who they are helping or work for. The ultimate proof, the term "social conservative" to someone who is read is an oxymoron, as the platform of "neoconservatism" is an oxymoron. A read conservative will refer to him or herself as a paleocon. Every time. Guaranteed.

    As to the OP, I care not how people worship, or the reason for their special occasions. I'm sure the modern "Jew" is as pure and true to their religious holidays as the modern "Christian". I wouldn't be surprised to find out the overwhelming majority have no clue as to the origins. I find the Jewish lock on media and financial institutions far more troublesome, as the modern push from Christians to ignore what our founders went through and make this a religious state.
     
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    I dispelled the notion that neocons are pro zionists in another thread when I told the people to read the book "Why Jews are liberals". Peace loving Christians would never say "Happy Hanukkha", as to do so would be to condone the festivities of those who seek to destroy the Gentile.
     
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    I disagree that Easter is a somber occasion..

    As for Hanukkah.. they are celebrating the dedication of the Second Temple.
     
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    Jews are pioneers of the "right" and "left". Hence, the 3rd Reich, or German for 3rd way. Why both parties have Jews all the way to the top. Both support the FED and Zionism, as all Jews support Israel, though different ideals exist as to how Israel should treat Arabs. Why Israel could get as much funding from a right leaning USA, to a left leaning Soviet Union. To outsiders it would seem Jews control the planet, but they obviously stress education as a people, which in its own right puts them at the top, and since nepotism exists in all tribes, they figured out society long before any others. But don't doubt for a second there are different types of Jews. Agreement on Israel doesn't change that fact. I imagine discussions of politics and economics in Jewish households can get very heated, very quickly.
     
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    I have to say that YOU have never been to an Easter Sunrise Service if you think Easter is a "somber ocassion"..

    Ever heard of The Hallelujah Chorus- Lyrics- Handel's Messiah???

    We performed it EVERY Easter in Saudi Arabia.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdRyNea19PE&feature=player_detailpage"]Hallelujah - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Excelent point. but unlike the common theory, I believe that it is not Jews who control the media, but the scum who control the media HIDE behind the religion of judaism, because by playing victims, being victimized they can get away with more crap they do.
     
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    Don't kid yourself, the people who control the media are Jewish. However, it is not a Jewish conspiracy, more like they got their priorities straight and are doing what anyone else would in their situation. My family is all LDS. They don't agree on everything, but are so use to persecution in even their own short history, that there is a defense mechanism that makes them protect their own, even to the point of allowing a bad person to exist. This is where the problem lies. There are good and bad types in all tribes. If people won't handle the bad of their own, they certainly cannot cry when an outsider shows up to hang them.
     
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    No doubt about that, that is why I completely despise all religions, but if I would say so, I would be labeled an anti semite, or hater etc. so I keep it to myself, but if I would ever become a dictator, all religions would be a thing of the past without any doubt.
    Jerry Sandusky demonstrates your point quite well btw...
     
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    You can see the level of education when Americans state that Easter is a "somber occasion"... and obviously NEVER attended an Easter Sunrise service or heard Handel's Messiah.
     
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    Americans spend Easter putting candy and coins in plastic eggs for their children to hunt, and many leave out a basket full of goodies. As all holidays, depends on how much cash the parents have at the time. For the great majority religion plays little, if at all, into the occasion.
     
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    A lot of religious holidays are essentially hand-me-downs from their predecessors.

    Christmas is just Saturnalia with Christ added on. It's especially funny how we incorporate Santa (a pagan figure) into Christmas without any issues, while certain Christians freak out over the pagan heritage of Halloween.

    Either way, it's all kind of silly.

    I like holidays more just for the sake of enjoyment and spending time away from work and with the family. Other people can bother with the religious mumbo-jumbo.
     
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    Amen.


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    I am an American and so are ALL my children.. and we have always had plenty of CASH.
     
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    I think we are missing the point of the op, so here it is abridged:

    What seperates a Catholic from a Jew is the belief in a Savior: for Catholics, it's Jesus. For Jews, it's God Himself.

    As such, a good Catholic has a good understanding of the New Testament- something the Jews reject completly. And with it, a new and better religion was born.

    Why? Because they wiped the slate clean of the Old Testament... because we no longer need to reread thousand year old fables as we have a new set of documents and a different tenet of faith.

    As Christans percieve it, the Old Testament God is powerful and vengeful. Jewish holidays dramatize this. But perhaps they are treating the books as history books that record the endurance of the Jew over time... Jewish faith. Catholics need only turn to Christ and be saved.

    There is no denying the allure of a new savior coming along and offering a different, easier road to salvation was possible, but we cannot dismiss four thousand years of the persistence of the Jews.
     
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    Not sure what your point is. All I can give you is a congratulations...tough to sew a merit badge over the internet.
     
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    My point is that a nitwit speaks for ALL Americans and thinks Easter is "Somber" or that Christmas is pagan.

    What do you think of this celtic performance.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlsJD8RlhbI&feature=player_detailpage"]Annie Lennox - God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Um...I'm speaking for the 5000 people who show up to the local festivities at the park, the great majority of which won't be attending any church service. I salute you for keeping it real. Can't see how anyone could have offended you, but, whatever.
     
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    Great performance by the strong voice of Annie Lennox. I said that Easter was a more somber holiday than that of Christmas--which it is. And where did I say that Christmas is pagan? Paganism, Satanism or Goyim bashing would more likely be associated with any and all of the Jewish ceremonies...wouldn't you say?
     
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    Easter can't be called somber at all by anyone who has ever been to an Easter Sunrise service... or heard Handel's Messiah.
     
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    Once again I said that Easter as celebrated by the average Christian family presents a more somber atmosphere than would the celebration of Christmas. Searching for Easter eggs for the kids doesn't quite measure up to the fun they have opening presents under the tree at Christmas time. Nonetheless, thanks for throwing a monkey wrench into my comparison of holidays between Christians and Jews.

    Dear Margie, will you be celebrating today's Hanukkha festivities with the gentile hating Jews?
     
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    Some of my family celebrate Hanukka and they don't hate gentiles nor are they Zionists.
     
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    But are they aware of the significance behind the Hanukkha celebration?
     
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    Yes.. they celebrate the completion of the second Temple.
     

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