I see that J. Corbyn is supporting the UK membership of the EU inn the upcomimg EU referendum vote. Tony Benn would be appauled at his decision to place the Labour party along side the Bankers, IMF & City of London finacial mogals in this debate. What his thinking behind his decision to place the party of the working class along side the Tory establishment, media Barons & Directors of large multi-nations is a puzzel. If you don't accept the fact that he has sold out the working classes to the likes of the Bilderberg group. All this crap from past PrimeMinisters that "Britian should lead Europe & not leave Europe" is a joke that just is not funny. Since the Maastricht agreement, we have given up our ability to block any policy agreed amongst those Social-Democrat which dominate Europe, that is against British interests & have lost our soverign right to decide our own laws. Not to mention the 10 BILLIONS pounds we hand over annually to them & the extra costs imposed on our business that are forced to follow policies not decided by our own elected politicians. Why Corbyn would promote a decision to allow Britian to be ever mor interrgrated into a Feberal Europe that exploites the working classes of this Country is a mystery. He is a traitor to the working classes and like all professional politicianns that have never worked an honest day in real industry in their lives, but instead live in a fantasy bubble of metropolitan Islington filled with middle-class public-sector champagne drinking Guardian reading socialists workers, that he is & wants to appeal to. He has lost all contact with the real grass roots of his own Party & is prepared to sacrifice them on the cross of profits for his metro-socialists friends. Bring back Tony Benn & real Socialism to stand up to the EU facists.
Tony Benn just paid lip service to 'socialism' and his son is doing just the same. Corbyn knows he's out of his depth (just like Cameron is ) but he's got used to the power and won't let go irrespective of what damage it will do to the party. I've never known British politics to be in such a parlous state: indeed, if it is only a rubber stamp for our masters in Brussels - as it so obviously is - I don't see the point of a British parliament. And as for the queen's pretend role in this establishment fiasco - don't start me on that!
" I've never known British politics to be in such a parlous state" I have to agress with you there. I hate British politics for the past 30 years. All political parties have stood for nothing & their leaders are weak willed. I despise "consensual" politics it leads to nothing by left wing mush that infects the people. Tony Benn, although a socialist which now a philosophy that I despise was certainly a man of profound belief. And I reject your comment that he only paid "lip service" to socialism. He was a true believer in his philosophy.
Was he? Can you provide an example of his altruism? I personally believe he was just another political nonentity who 'had greatness thrust upon them.'
Corbyn is a traitor to the working class for his promotion of the EU. As for Tony Benn, "the most dangerous man in Britian" read his obituary http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/mar/14/tony-benn-obituary A true socialst, unlike the fake Corbyn & unlike the fake Corbyn, he has betrayed the working class. But lets face the truth .... The nu-Labour party is only about the middle-class public sector workers that don't want the public sector taps turned off. That is why only the areas of Britian thet have a predominant public sector work force still vote & elect MPs to Parliment. I hope the NHS & the vast majority of the Public sector is thrown on the scrap heap VERY VERY soon.
And lets not forget the OP RE: Corbyn & his betrayal of the working class, along with David Camoron, J. Corbyn is a pro-EU supporter. A system that hates the working classes & promote a Federal Europe of low-pay and the domination of the ruling elite. Tony Benn would turn in his grave at the parlours state of the Labour party and it's leader...
Tony Benn was my fathers constituency MP, when we met him I was still a child. My father voted for him but said he never trusted him. His car was a wreck, dad thought it was pretentious.
He was a son of an hereditary peer & a typical champagne socialst Labour, but for all that he was a true socialist, albeit from a typical middle class liberal elite. As I was saying in my OP, the media Barons, owners of multi-nations & the celebrity elite that voice support for Britain remaining within the EU, because either they directly benifit from it for they income or are not threatened by it. Here we see the typical Guardian metropolitan elite voicing their support for the EU : http://news.sky.com/story/1699062/celebrities-come-out-in-force-for-remain-vote None of these types have any concern for their own jobs from mass low-paid immigration that drives down the wages of the working class. And feel they have something to gain from their phoney liberal opinions expressions. The untruths made in the article are easily combatted by examining how more artistically we as British people we were before the advent of the EU comapre to how miserable we are to-day in comparison. The EU is a racket & we should reclaim our basic sovereignty, was they only thing worth mentioning from I. Botham & a sentiment with which Tony Benn would agree.
Much you know about it. We have to thank Jeremy Corbyn for fighting to ensure the NHS is protected from the TTIP.
What has Corbyn actually done for the NHS? Decades of brain washing has led the British people to idealize the over-priced, over-budget & generally very inefficient NHS. 2/3 of expenditure on the NHS is to salries & pensions. I would scrap the NHS & re-introduce the "friendly societies" instead. But that is maybe because I despise all public sector workers. Parisites & tax consumers mostly.
The NHS has become dysfunctional because it and its staff are so abused. I recall about 4 years ago a government determination to stop the routine violence against A&E staff each and every effing weekend, but it's still going on even now - and even worse. Hardly surprising that they've become thoroughly demoralised and careless? As it happens I wrote to my MP and the CE of our local hospital only in recent weeks over the fact she was kept waiting in A&E for over 5 hours in extremis. The CE didn't even have the courtesy to reply to my concerns - well why should he care, because just like politicians he has private health cover. The destruction of the UK by bureaucrats continues.
The EU is 'pastures green' for retired and unseated politicians and their families and friends; that's why they're fighting so hard to keep it, plus the fact that their wealth is in Euros.
Fought for it to be excluded from the TTIP Less is spent on the NHS than other countries spend on healthcare. What a horrible thought.
It is a fantastic thought, £100 billion a year for our population is a waste of money. Health care can be offered much more effectively, at a much lower cost. Fat, lazy & socialists citizens drain the NHS to much & should be forced to accept a limitaion on what they are allowed to claim.
How? What about fat and lazy tories? Do they get a free pass? - - - Updated - - - He succeeded. The NHS will be excluded from the TTIP
You tell me. Negotiations are still going ahead. The information is ut there. Go and find it. Having a temper tantrum isn't going to change anything.
As you say, Corbyn isn't from a working class background anyway. Only one of the current UK-wide parties actually comes from a working class background, and Tim Farron also supports staying in the EU, of course. That certainly has something to do with the kind of employment rights that have been created and protected by the EU, despite Tory attempts to undermine or remove them, obviously - the EU has been, and continues to be, very good news for the 'working class'.
I'm not really sympathetic to the employment rights of EU workers. I'm, more worried about my own. Their gain is my loss.
Wrong Britian spends more per capita on healthacare than any other Country within the EU. & "friendly societies" would produce a far better level of care that we have to-day. What a wonderful caring idea!
http://www.cityam.com/1403103225/th...-spends-less-head-us-or-european-counterparts Which friendly societies would they be?
As we are one of three net contributors into the EU budget one could argue that we are aplying a proportion of our taxes supporting health systems in other countries that are not net contributors. One we get to spend our money where we want to spend it then things will be bound to change.
