Could the DNC swap Harris for Newsom, the have Biden resign?

Your partisan ideas don't fly. It is all about winning. If it takes a half-wit to get the half-wit vote, then they will nominate a half-wit.
I hope you get to see a Biden/Harris ticket.
I am right. You are wrong, and I don't need your personal attacks this early in the morning.

 

LOL-- there was nothing in my post which could be seen as an attack-- do you want to point to the supposed words? Therefore, your fake allegation, that I had attacked you personally, is in fact a personal attack, by you, against me. Here is my "attacking" post:

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Your post does not respond to my point. Newsom does not call the shots, at the DNC. Also, Biden's running mate is not even a DNC decision, but Biden's personal choice (keep that in mind if, and presumably when, it is time for Trump to pick a V.P.). Either way, as I had said, you should realize that after all the efforts-- which I am sure you have criticized-- of Biden & the DNC to promote & elevate minority candidates, neither would ever so insult their female and black bases, by casting off the historic, first female and first black U.S. Vice President. Will you be able to do any better, if I give you another shot at a rebuttal? I highly doubt you will muster anything but more deflection from this basic reality.

Also, if you had been paying any attention whatsoever, you would realize that President Biden has always spoken of his Vice President, in only the most glowing terms, as almost his partner in the Presidency. So I will bet you any amount of money that you are prepared to lose, that he will not dump her, from his ticket (far less, to be replaced not by another black woman, or a black man, or an Asian woman, but by a white man).

Thirdly, Newsom is a long time, huge booster of Kamala's. So I cannot think of a more obviously ridiculous scenario, than that Harris would get shoved aside, for Newsom. You guys on the Right must be really scared of Gavin, to be so paranoid about his getting near the Presidency. But if you see Newsom preparing for higher office in D.C., this would be his thinking ahead, to at least 2028.
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So, is my saying that your post doesn't respond to my point, your idea of a "personal attack?" How about my saying that you should realize that neither Biden nor the Dems, would offend their base, by removing the historic, first female, and first black Vice President? Was I wrong, in thinking that you had criticized the trend of Biden & the Dems to promote & elevate candidates representing groups outside of white males? For instance, what sort of comments would I find from you, on any threads about Supreme Court Justice Katanji Brown Jackson, when Biden nominated her? Shall I go on? Your charge of any "personal attacks" on you, in my post, is absolute bullshit-- and nobody needs that, at any time of day.


Secondly, your actual reply, was a joke. Sorry I can't pretend that your completely missing of the point, was not a feeble attempt at reasoning. To explain more simply, since that is apparently necessary: insulting one's base, would seriously risk having fewer of them show up to vote, due to low enthusiasm. Just who do feel would be more likely to vote for an all male, all white, Biden - Newsom ticket, who would not support a Biden - Harris one? Those who would find the white maleness so appealing, are not especially likely to be supporters of the policies of Newsom & Biden. So my point had been that if, as you say, "it is all about winning," then it would be stupid, to disrespect such a large portion of one's supporters, as dumping Harris would be seen to be doing.

Better luck, this time, following that common sense argument.

 

EDITED Re-post:

Your post does not respond to my point. Newsom does not call the shots, at the DNC. Also, Biden's running mate is not even a DNC decision, but Biden's personal choice (keep that in mind if, and presumably when, it is time for Trump to pick a V.P.). Either way, as I had said, you should realize that after all the efforts-- which I am sure you have criticized-- of Biden & the DNC to promote & elevate minority candidates, neither would ever so insult their female and black bases, by casting off the historic, first female and first black U.S. Vice President.

Will you offer anything but more deflection, if you take another shot at a rebuttal? (As this is now a re-post, we have have already seen that your second try, also ignored this basic reality).

In addition, if you had been paying any attention whatsoever, you would realize that President Biden has always spoken of his Vice President, in only the most glowing terms, as almost his partner in the Presidency. So I will bet you any amount of money that you are prepared to lose, that he will not dump her, from his ticket (far less, replace her-- not with a different black woman, or a black man, or an Asian woman, but-- with another white guy).

Thirdly, Newsom is a long time, huge booster of Kamala's. So I cannot think of a more obviously ridiculous scenario, than that Harris would get shoved aside, for Newsom. You folks on the Right must be really scared of Gavin, to be so paranoid about his getting near the Presidency. But if you see Newsom preparing for higher office in D.C., this would be his thinking ahead, to at least 2028.

 

That's not entirely true. The DNC could exert a lot of pressure on him, even threaten to possibly withhold the nomination. Which at this point would not be difficult to do. Biden knows he needs to play all the cards and pull all the strings to try to make sure he wins the nomination and gets support from the DNC, since there's a lot of pressure to nominate someone else--anyone else--who is not Biden.

The DNC wants two things: To get someone who is competent (ok, maybe unrealistic, at least not too incompetent) and to maximize their chances that their candidate can win, which is not going to be helped if a less popular running mate is paired with Biden on the ticket.
I'm sure the DNC would also prefer a running mate who is competent enough to run things and take on the work role that a President normally would be expected to do, or someone who could be used to control Biden, but the DNC could also accomplish those through someone else.

 

LOL.

 

They could

they won't

 

Fair analysis, but you cannot presume that "da people" are fine with a shadow government with no competent leader. By the time the election gets here Biden will be as bad off as Dianne Feinstein with a staffer sitting next to her telling her how to vote, AFTER she had to have a guardian appointed at home to manage her affairs.

 

No, you will have to find out for yourself. I was really impressed with the effective argument you made in your response. Impressive.

 

Screw both those losers. I can't believe anyone is still considering voting for Trump or Biden...again.

 

• Could the DNC swap Harris for Newsom, the have Biden resign ?​

~ Harris may actually be the only person alive that is more unpopular that Ol' Joe. Democrats want them both gone.
As for Newsom sneaking into the spot, remember how Hubert Humphrey got the nomination.

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Simply
How about the Best for the Job ?

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He killed his chances in the debate with DeSantis. He is a complete and total adherent to identity politics. But, no one ever went broke underestimating the American voter.

 

He's the typical left wing Democrat. That's what makes him so attractive to many voters, especially the young ones who think that the government owes them an education and a living.

No one needs to work. All goods are produced in China and brought here for their consumption. For the young, working a 9 to 5 job is for fools and losers. Why should work interfere with their desire to have a good time?

 

Trump will get the nomination. He will lose to the Biden - Harris ticket. Many people know that Biden is senile and probably won't last until 2029, but they hate Trump too much to ever vote for him.

 

If they EVER dump Kamala I personally will be one screaming "racism", "Misogyny" sexism!!, They made their bed, let them lie in it!!

 

While perfectly legal, I have no idea why you or friends entertain that idea, as there is no advantage to doing that for the dems. Are tyour friends so paranoid that they see conspiracy everywhere even when there is NO REASON to go through with the conspiracy?
The idea of gaming the presidency has also popped into some heads in my circle. I wonder might Trump drop out and have Ivanka run for president with him as vicepresident. He then has her killed and assumes the presidency, allowing him thus to run in 2028 and get around the constitution

Sorry but your scenario presents zero advantage to democrats conspirationalists or not.
At least the Hillary runs, installs Bill as VP then steps down/ Michelle runs, installs Barack as VP then steps down presented a conspiracy scenario that has SOME logic to it.

 

Riiiight. I guess when Texan Dick Cheney is constitutionally forbidden from running for vicepresident he suddenly becomes a Wyomingite no questions asked?
Laphonza and Dick both just went through a change of address, to see any more than that in this is ridiculous.

 

They could do an end run around that issue by replacing Harris with a competent black lady. There are thousands of them more competent than Harris.

 

But dumping her would be "racist" and "misogynist". We'll call DEI to the mat! Doesn't matter who they replace her with.

 

If Biden is unable to run in 2024 the DNC choosing Newsome over Harris would hurt the Democrats with black voters. The DNC made a huge mistake picking Harris to be VP. It seems Harris is intentionally trying to hurt Biden.

 

No. The DNC cannot.

 

Biden does have his "Visiting Angel"....Dr, Jill. It is an advantage!

 

What if they replace her with a black trans lady in a wheelchair?

 

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the man is brilliant... and I know that I know that I know that I know that he would attempt to bring
American back together.......

as opposed to the Divide and Conquer tactics that have been used on us in the past...................

During his near death experience he met with Dr. Albert Einstein.......

no kidding!!!!!!!!!!


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What they will do is give her prestigious no show (or show, she can do what she wants) as an offer for a comfy retirement.
They certainly are gaming a Harris resigns, Newsom fills in, Biden resigns, Newsom is prez.

Crikey! That's a slam dunk!