Could we Canadians STOP the Iran deal?

Well I don't think the vast majority of Iranians or their leadership want to see Iran turned into Glass.

But then there are the Ahatollah's and Mullah's who as old men with little life left who might just be crazy enough to not care.

But Iran really is not capable of delivering such weapons to target as even if they were to attempt to place one nuke on a Passenger Jet the U.S. would be able to track this happening.

We could easily stop this from happening.

But you never know.

AboveAlpha

 

This idea really does help to make sense out of this agreement!

Until I read this........ I was scratching my head and wondering what in the world..... was President Obama and his team really thinking?????????!

On the other hand...... this poster over in another similar topic thread has done an amazingly good job of summarizing the situation.......

http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/405513-whats-wrong-iran-deal.html

What's wrong the the Iran deal?

AboveAlpha........... you have been to the Middle East a lot.......... you know far more about Canadian - USA relations than I do........ do you think that I am probably onto something important to feel that our P. M. Stephen Harper.......(in spite of his many flaws in many areas)........ if he is willing to tackle this............ would probably handle the situation in such a way that turns out to be win - win - win - win for Americans, Canadians, at least ten million endangered Iranian citizens..... and one hundred thousand to one million endangered Israelis?

 

Now that is an interesting aspect of all this!!!!!!

It is the old guys, who are steeped in religion, who know that they only have a few years of life left anyway, who are shoving the political leadership of Iran toward rather suicidal policies!!!!!

Intriguing indeed!

 

Does that mean Harper is no longer being considered for the role of the invisible man?

Harper should play a ventriloquists dummy. He has no policies nor opinions and is a tool of more powerful people behind the scenes.

Harper is an incredible tool who thinks that the world cares what he purports that Canada thinks. His opinion of Canadian influence on the world stage is grossly over-inflated.

Harper's best prospects for the future is to become a Mike Myers imitator when his owners are done with him as a pathetic stooge.

 

So in your opinion Denizen....... did P. M. Stephen Harper manage to radically alter the plans of the G-8 back in 2011 or not?

According to many people....... the CBC is controlled by P. M. Harper's rivals...... but this article does seem to verify that P. M. Harper really did steer G-8 policy back in 2011.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/g8-needs-balanced-approach-to-israel-harper-1.1024948

G8 needs balanced approach to Israel: Harper

 

canadians cant do diddly about squat. The deal is pretty much behind us and done. the UN has already lifted its sanctions. the only thing left is for congress to say yeah or nay and even if they say nay it wont mean much as the rest of the world is pretty much past the sanctions. by the way most of what you post is so paranoid that you should be a republican down here.

 

It appears that Harper was acting as a ventriloquist dummy for Netanyahu. The G8 listen politely and then in private have an opinion that Harper is a blatant cheap tool.

 

But..... can you see why many Israeli's might see Prime Minister Stephen Harper as a rather "Davidic" figure?

It is like he and his team....... defeated the 7 Goliath brothers?

 

Good insight Katzgar!

I would certainly have voted for McCain / Palin in 2008, I would have voted for Mitt in 2012 and at this time I tend to promote causes such as......

http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...-dr-ben-carson-v-p-2016-president-2024-a.html
Dr. Ben Carson for V. P. in 2016 and for President in 2024?!
I saw the movie Gifted Hands about a year ago and I personally do feel that Dr. Ben Carson can make a fantastic President of the USA ....... but......… the fact that he does not have experience in politics is a serious concern so it seems obvious to me that he needs to change course by around September or October of 2015 if by that time he has not established a firm lead as the leader of the G. O. P. contenders?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gifted_...n_Carson_Story

My recommendation is that he speak with Mr. Mitt Romney as soon as possible and prove to all Americans that Dr. Carson is able to objectively access his own situation and turn what appears to be a liability into an asset...… .and plan for the long term!

Mr. Mitt Romney almost defeated an incumbent President which happens only on extremely rare occasions. Mitt Romney can defeat Hillary but........... Mr. Romney has presented a powerful case that Jeb Bush....... cannot!
.................
On Friday July 24 I replied to a message from Dr. Ben Carson's office........

https://www.facebook.com/notes/dann...-brinkley-is-highly-electable/643402459127988

Dannion Brinkley is HIGHLY electable!

From personal experience I know that visiting loved ones in their final months, weeks, days and hours of life is one of the most difficult things that we can do. It is of course that much more challenging to spend that time with people that you don't really know. In my opinion, Dannion Brinkley is one of America's most humble and most effective volunteers. (Dennis Tate, page creator).

http://www.thetwilightbrigade.com/dannion-brinkley.htm

........(I got an encouraging reply that same evening that I just noticed this morning).......

.....From: CarsonAmerica <info...........
To: Dennis Tate <tate4pictoucentre@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: I'm running for President

 

How can anybody not judge Harper as a stooge. He is blatant and transparent. He doesn't even try to hide it.

Harper's legacy will be a Canada that has lost whatever influence it had in world affairs.

 

I'm not so sure............... I wasn't attempting just to waste my time when I put a couple of paragraphs from the NDE account of Dannion Brinkley in front of P. M. Harper and his supporters over in this discussion.........

I have gotten the impression that P. M. Harper believes that a close relationship between Canada and Israel is a key to boosting the Canadian economy....... as well as his own political fortunes.

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...s-p-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal.html
Please pray or meditate on Canada's P. M. brokering Jordan - Israel peace deal?

(post #2).........Several years ago I was led to read a book again about a near death experiencer who was shown that Jordan and Israel would become like one nation…. I wonder if this is true and if it would be according to the will of God for this to happen soon?


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My guess on the new colour for Jordan would be GREEN…. as Isaiah 35 is fulfilled and the deserts of Jordan would be turned green through a great increase in desalination of ocean water……. Not to mention the blessing of God!

http://saharaforestproject.com/projects/jordan.html

........On page 2 of that discussion I gave several more paragraphs that I felt that he and his team might just be able to make some use of........

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...p-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal-2.html

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...... These other paragraphs would tend to be extremely offensive to members of the Liberal Party that I am in......... I can certainly empathize with this....... but there is a practical side to this that could get some people thinking.

Denizen........ please imagine yourself as a member of the Royal family of the nation of Jordan........... what would you personally tend to think as you viewed youtube images of ISIS fighters executing members of minorities within Islam...... or Christians?

Would you be at least a little tempted to fear ISIS........ more than you fear the Israelis?

 

Canada has 12 frigates and 1 destroyer classed as warships. that isnt a navy, that is a museum.

 

I agree...... and a better understanding of certain aspects of historical Canadian central banking policy will play a role in helping us to rectify that little problem.

Over the coming years as you research this topic further..... you will be a little shocked to see how similar the problem in the USA actually is at its core.

www.BankingSystemFlaws.blogspot.ca/


When well trained workers have high quality technology to work with then the total of all wages and benefits paid out to employees is only a fraction of the retail value of the products they produce. As a result of this fact the only way to move products out of warehouses is to extend higher and higher levels of credit. One problem with an abundance of red ink is that compound interest on all this government, business and personal debt over a period of decades will grow to astronomical levels. At this time there is approximately TEN TIMES as much debt in Canada as there is money. A simple explanation for how this happened can be seen here:
http://www.michaeljournal.org/plenty34.htm

In my opinion this rather simple mathematical problem is perhaps the number one cause of inflation in the Canadian economy over the past three decades. This is also perhaps the number one reason why our costs of production are so high and Canadian products cannot compete on the world markets as well as they could under better conditions.

From 1940 to 1970 the Government of Canada put roughly half of the total money supply into the economy through loans issued through the federally owned Bank of Canada. Provincial and municipal governments could borrow the money to build roads, schools, hospitals and sewage treatment facilities at zero or one percent interest. In 1970 we changed our system and since that time a higher and higher percentage of all government debt is financed through loans issued through privately owned banks. At this time it is ninety eight percent. This policy may be great for our banking sector but it was estimated that in the one year of 1995 alone our federal government could have saved roughly SIXTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in interest payments if we had gone back to creating half the total money supply through these low interest rate loans issued through the bank that is OWNED BY ALL CANADIANS.

Considering that our deficit was approximately thirty billion dollars for that year, simply by changing back to an already proven monetary and banking system, we could theoretically have had a FEDERAL BUDGET SURPLUS OF THIRTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in 1995.

The massive cutbacks in the Canadian military, in health care, highway construction, social programs and education were profoundly affected by these accounting practices?

So what can you and I do about this problem?

 

You may have noticed that your own damned business in international affairs directly affects us.
Or have you failed to notice we fight along side you more often than not (Viet Nam and Iraq2 being the exceptions)?

 

Well, Iran is an enemy after all, and this is an agreement that didn't require a war.
Iran will not end its hostility to Israel as Israel is an mortal enemy of Iran as they are with any number of other regional nations. Nothing like asking the impossible.

As to their funding of terrorism, last time I looked, the middle east has been in a state of almost continuous war for the past 15 years or so.

So iran takes a page out of America's playbook and funds various organizations that are aligned with them, but in this case the alignment is religious and is far more reliable than the political alignments used by the US. In fact, given its history on the international stage, it could be said that America started the terror war long before 9/11. It sure did enough to (*)(*)(*)(*) them all off.

How convenient of you to overlook America's own human rights violations, its own fomenting of unrest and terror and revolution.


BTW, Israel isn't INCAPABLE of taking out the Iranian regime unless they use nukes, which would be one of if not, the ultimate ironies in history.
Its army is puny in comparison, its way too far away to invade and Iranian air defenses are pretty damn formidable.

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Well, Iran is an enemy after all, and this is an agreement that didn't require a war.
Iran will not end its hostility to Israel as Israel is an mortal enemy of Iran as they are with any number of other regional nations. Nothing like asking the impossible.

As to their funding of terrorism, last time I looked, the middle east has been in a state of almost continuous war for the past 15 years or so.

So iran takes a page out of America's playbook and funds various organizations that are aligned with them, but in this case the alignment is religious and is far more reliable than the political alignments used by the US. In fact, given its history on the international stage, it could be said that America started the terror war long before 9/11. It sure did enough to (*)(*)(*)(*) them all off.

How convenient of you to overlook America's own human rights violations, its own fomenting of unrest and terror and revolution.


BTW, Israel isn't INCAPABLE of taking out the Iranian regime unless they use nukes, which would be one of if not, the ultimate ironies in history.
Its army is puny in comparison, its way too far away to invade and Iranian air defenses are pretty damn formidable.

 

I don't believe that Royal family of Jordan fears Israel. On the contrary, Jordan Royal family collaborates closely with Israel for it's survival. If Israel ever decides to cease that collaboration, the Royal family of Jordan will eventually cease to exist. In fact Jordan's collaboration with Israel is a condition of it's qualification for USA aid.

The Royal family of Jordan does indeed fear ISIS no less than Bashar Assad of Syria fears ISIS and the Iraq administration fears ISIS.

Whether it's ISIS or the Palestinians that eventually prevails, the Royal family of Jordan is an anachronism and they will eventually dissolve into history living in sanctuary in USA.

I also don't believe ISIS will win or become a major player in the Middle East. They are a transient phenomenon created, financed and armed by Saudi Arabia to frighten Saudis and others into supporting the Saudi and Gulf state rulers. The rise of ISIS also coincides with the collaboration between the Shiites of Iraq and Iran which Saudi Arabia fears and opposes.

The suicide bombers of Iraq would not exist without Saudi finance and support. They appear to have no cause other than killing Shiites which aligns with Saudi policy.

It will be very interesting to see eventually if the redacted pages of the 911 commission report contain references to Saudi promotion of fanatics such as ISIS because this will reveal that ISIS could have been stopped if the redacted pages of the 911 Commission report had been publicly released and the information had been acted on to wipe out extremists, fanatics and those that financed and covered for them.

Harper is a total stooge and Canada has no influence on the world stage. Harper's irrational fanaticism toward Israel exceeds even the zeal of Zionists.

 

Saudi Arabia isn't funding ISIS.. You are listening to pundits who don't know Saudi Arabia at all.

I wish they would publish the 28 redacted pages and cut the speculation and assumptions.

 

Perhaps Harper and the purported Canadain government should be dismissed as a cost cutting measure and Canada governed from Tel Aviv by it's rightful owner Netanyahu.

 

The best thing you could do is ignore the US. We are only concerned with money, not the welfare of our fellow human beings. Anyone who says different is a liar. Keep any emigrants away from the US. Your country is doing just fine without us.

We actually have people in this forum who think you are "Barbarians at the gate" . Not even kidding. Look it up.

Just got back from Montreal. I loved it! Do not give up your country!

Anne (*)(*)(*)(*)er, oh sorry, "Coulter" says that you are lucky we let Canada exist. And we should invade if need be for oil,.

The US right wing is insane. If you think I'm joking look it up.

 

Shouldn't the US just take over the Israeli government since we own it? We've paid enough to keep Israel a State, yes?

If not, why? Please, someone tell me what Israel has done for us other than give us huge headaches?

Someone please tell me what Israel gives us in return?

I have a feeling I will be waiting a while.

 

Canadians are the Mexicans of the North. They all live within 50 miles of USA border and suck the goodness out of USA without contributing to USA. They blather about being Canadians but secretly wish they could become Americans.

Canada is a nation of invisible people whose voices are not heard by Americans.

It wouldn't be worth USA's while to take Canada over unless it could be turned over for a quick buck. Anyway, Canada's current owner Israel might object to a takeover.

 

I'm going to quote this BS for some Canadian friends of mine.

NO, they do NOT want to be part of the US. As a matter of fact, it is extremely difficult to become a Canadian citizen if you are from the US. I also do not know one Canadian who wished they lived in the US. They want us kept out. Ever been to Ottawa, Quebec City or Montreal?

Beautiful places, with tons of history. We have nothing to compare to Canada. We should actually want to be more like them.

And if you really want to be honest, we are Canada's Mexico. Tons of US citizens go there year after year. SMART people. I might be next. And we get rejected, unless we have a specific skill set or married.

And if I do, good bye US. It's a stupid country that cares only about money.

Tell me otherwise, you can't. US companies do not value smart people anymore. Just really good workers. I am more than happy to take my brain somewhere else where it will be valued.

 

That is a fairly good idea. Atomic scientists are notorious for sabotaging their own government's efforts to make bombs. That is not satire but historical fact. Heisenberg is thought to have limited the Nazis's bomb project and Leo Szilard made speeches against nuclear weapons after the war, so what you say here is actually something which may be true.

 

Leekohlter2............ because you have stuck up for us so powerfully and eloquently......... I want to make you an offer Sir!

I wish to pass you a "Unified Theory of Modern World Problems" for one dollar........ I want you to consider initiating both a film production company as well as cooperative......... and I want to pass you an offer that is to be made to my M. P. who has announced that he will not be campaigning for public office again in this upcoming federal election.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/05/29/peter-mackay-quitting-politics.html

Peter MacKay bids surprise farewell to federal politics

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It is my theory that documentary, reality, semi-reality science fiction as well as purely fantasy films and books that are based on those reality films........can be used to address actual problems that people are facing.

I am convinced that films can play a major role in bringing peace to the Middle East........... I will P.M. you shortly to send you my e-mail......... but for the moment....... this will give you an idea of the sort of thing that I have in mind......... Basically....... my M. P. Peter MacKay is so well liked that 56% of us here in Central - Nova, (including me, a Liberal), voted for him back in 2011........... Mr. MacKay is PERFECT............... to become an actor....... playing the role of himself...... in a plan to get all of Canada's political parties working together to increase the general level of peace and safety in the Middle East............... that actually is centred around us attempting to finance the fulfillment of an ancient Islamic prophecy.... that I already quoted here in this discussion somewhere........(page 2, post eighteen)....

https://www.facebook.com/notes/turk...ician-the-film-series-concept/310416062401072

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http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...ts-take-937-those-syrian-refugees-canada.html
Mr. Justin Trudeau, let's take 937 of those Syrian refugees to Canada?

........

 

In 2001 92,000 Canadians migrated to USA and in 2006 73,000. The reverse migration from USA to Canada was much less and the relative ratios based on population.

Based on population ratios it works out to about 15 times as many Canadians as a percentage of Canadian population compared to Americans that want to migrate to Canada.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/11-008-x/2010002/t/11287/tbl001-eng.htm

The reason Canadians want to migrate to USA is that they have more opportunities to make more money than they otherwise could in Canada.

Why do Americans want to go to Canada? They want to be a lumberjack; they want to be a horseback lawman; they want to be a rodent exterminator in the prairies.

Face it bro. Canada is a backwater and the 99% of Canadians who live within 50 miles of the border do so because they really want to be Americans.

With a clown like Harper as a leader who would not want to be an American?

ps. Ask your Canadian friends if they want an introduction to a USA immigration agent.