Could you please get rid of this Amateur?

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by Gaius_Marius, Nov 22, 2016.

  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    OK, OK we've both read it, now maybe you'd be good enough to tell us specifically where we're wrong, as it seems you find it so obvious. Like most of the Great Documents it's a little deceptive in its seeming simplicity
     
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    Margot said that salaries were unconstitutional. Can you point that out in the constitution?
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, she said emoluments, and you're just being purposely obtuse in seeming to ignore the obvious context that says these sums in question are emoluments from foreign governments which rather clearly ARE illegal, and surely ought to be as well. Frex, do you want Trump to be President if it's found out he's being paid billions by Valerie Putin?
     
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    Emolument - a salary, fee, or profit from employment or office.

    Again the left projects. This is exactly what was happening with the Clinton foundation. Is it any wonder that the donations have all of a sudden dried up?
     
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    Why telling him to read the constitution. As far as anyone concerned knows the president Obama is the one who should read the constitution as he was/is the one who has shown appalling disregard for the US constitution. Arrogance and ignorance.
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    (*)(*)(*)(*) the Clinton Foundation. That bit of slander has served its nefarious purpose for you and it's not under discussion right now. One conservative calumny at a time OK.

    Fer crissake what is the MATTER with you? Salaries from foreign governments (and that was CLEARLY the kind we were discussing since they are mentioned in the relevant Constitutional quote) ARE illegal, Are you honestly trying to argue that our government officials should be able to be employees of foreign countries?

    I myself predict that Trump will use the old "blind trust" thingy pretty soon, unless he and Putin really do have plans to make him the world's first trillionaire. He's going to face a (*)(*)(*)(*)storm from Congress about it, either now or down the line
     
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    The problem is that Trump thinks that he can hand off Trump Enterprise off to his kids.. He thinks that is a blind trust.
     
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    Of course, all those years under Obama's administration rule you lived under the rock and missed all the above mentioned in your post. That's perfect description of Obama's years in the White House.
     
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    Trump is not receiving 'salaries' from foreign governments. Even you could have garnered that from the link that Margo provided.
     
  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Which is why the Founding Fathers were careful to say "emoluments" which means any kind of award or benefit, ANY kind, even an advantageous price or charge. And no, Trump is not receiving any of them either, SO FAR

    The problem is that he very easily could and this is without his meaning too or possibly even knowing about it.

    Again, he is going to almost have to follow the blind trust arrangement, and that DOESN'T mean giving it to a relative; if he tries anything else Congress is going to fall on him like a load of bricks. Most of them are successful businessmen too and they have done it voluntarily just to avoid even the possibility of scandal which could easily ruin BOTH their careers, private and public.
     
  13. AlphaOmega

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    Hes a giant step forward from obama, the single worst most corrupt pos ever to disgrace the white house.
     
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    Lol...obama hasnt been a president for 8 frickn years. The only thing he got right was snuffing out osama. Other than that his only success was dividing the nation into complete polarized groups. The worst president we have ever had.
     
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    Safe space?

    Look quit playing stupid games. Your sudden posturing as a human belies the insults and usual right wing garbage is typical and so very much Trump.

    You are not left, I am not left, why would you post an angry rant at the left if not to annoy? And since you are not left how the (*)(*)(*)(*) would you know what "they" want. So far your posts seem designed to harass and annoy rather than make a logical point.

    Based on your posting and antagonistic attitude I'm convinced that's your only purpose.

    Seriously dude, you need to step up your game, you attacked me without even realizing I'm not a card carrying Clinton supporter. Now you're going on and on trying to save face.

    I don't have time for childishness.

    Good bye
     
  16. dairyair

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    LOL. Acting all snowflake about who can use the word.

    Go ahead. Search away.
     
  17. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im not angry at all. I posted facts. FACT leftists stated they were setting up petting ponies and sage spaces. You then went on epic rants. You attacked me, please stop lying. If you arent left then why are you ranting about me posting Facts that leftists have stated? Try play doh the pony doesnt seem to be working.
     
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    Hahahh. No....just pointing out that you guys need to use terms correctly. Like when you guys say kool aid drinkers....too funny. Its like you hear a term but have no concept of its origins.
     
  19. dairyair

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    More likely the ones throwing the terms around are shown to be hypocrites and hate getting called on it.
     
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    Mmmkay...petting pony guys have no business at all calling anyone else a snowflake. Thats the epitome of failed males. Grown men needing play doh and petting puppies is as weak as you get. Then there are the dumb ones who now all of a sudden dislike the electoral...when at 6pm on election day they were gloating about it. How embarrassed they must be to so smug at 6 and completely smacked down at 9.
     
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    You better be careful what you wish for....

    You just might get it....

    You would be wise not to stir the pot..
     
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    But getting the most popular votes is not how this republic elects its presidents. So she didn't win anything. She got more popular votes, but she didn't win anything. For she would have needed electoral college votes to win, and she could not get them. This is the system we have, and elect presidents by. The law of the land. It is probably the best way to elect presidents, for it keeps urban areas from being overly represented in a nation that is not all urban. The electoral college system helps to insure that more people will be represented by the president and not just NYC or LA people.

    And it is some protection from a Mobocracy. A left wing authoritarian mobocracy. The social justice politically correct, anti free speech authoritarians on the lunatic fringe left. Those people are crazy!! And such a pain in the arse. They remind me of tantrum throwing, terrible two year olds. And you find them in urban areas where the closely packed humanity suffers from mental afflictions and aberrant behavior from the over crowding. In places like NYC, LA, DC, and san Francisco. The electoral college offers some protection from these characters.
     
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    I saw the thread title and thought you meant Obama.

    would you go crazy if he said stuffing was his favorite thanksgiving side dish?
     
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    And yet, somehow, Bill, Hillary, and now Chelsea Clinton walk free.
     
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