Culture of Shootings , "Thoughts and Prayers" But No Solutions

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  1. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it's time to drop this subject because it's getting too silly and childish. Not only have I seen more of the world than you .... but you've never even met anyone who's seen as much of the world as I have.

    Yep, you're just trolling now. Have a nice day. :flowerpot:
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    The ones you outlined. Somehow restoring the "nuclear family" that was pretty much a myth anyway. "Leave it to Beaver" was a tv show. It never really existed.

    You've been watching too many movies. Even someone with a baseball bat isn't really going to haul off and take on a whole swath of people. Hell, they can't really even stage that, it requires a special sort of editing machine that was only recently invented to make it look like it's actually happening
     
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    Well, if you say so then why would anyone doubt some guy on the internet making claims about himself. I bet you are also a multi-millionaire with a model for a wife and 3 mistresses all around the world.
     
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    The inconvenient truth:

    "The shock wave was so powerful that Mr. Zuniga’s wife, Wanna, riding ahead of him, was blown off her bicycle and sprawled on the ground, mottled with shrapnel wounds. She turned and tried to crawl toward her husband, she told a reporter later, but the police, who had been patrolling nearby, kept her back."
    THE NEW YORK TIMES, Hand Grenades and Gang Violence Rattle Sweden’s Middle Class, By Ellen Barry and Christina Anderson, March 3, 2018.
    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/world/europe/sweden-crime-immigration-hand-grenades.html
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Violent crime in Sweden is perpetrated by migrants but being a PC-media nation (to the max) you won't know that.
     
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    gotta get it out there before the other narrative given his name. He may have been radicalized but let's get the mental illness card in play and lead with that rather than explore all avenues and seek the truth, no matter how damning it may be to a political ideology
     
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    I don't remember saying anything about a nuclear family, though I think that can absolutely help. But if someone comes from a broken and abusive family, then obviously they will need help from an organization specially equipped and trained to give the person the support they need. Support can also come in many forms. Family, spirituality, friends, or finding some higher purpose. I'm sure there are plenty of others. It will take research and resources to find the best answers to societies problems, but I think can definitely pay off in the end. I'm sorry, but I'm not for your "it's hopeless, so lets ignore the problem and hide the symptoms" approach. Where there is a will there is a way to tackle this.
     
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    The NRA might as well be ruining the country ;-)
     
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    Radicalization definitely needs to be looked into.
     
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    Can you supply any evidence that republicans are the Authoritarian party?
    Look at now. Democrats are trying to kill the filibuster. Trying to change our constitution so DC is a state.
     
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    So if Democrats are not running it, the NRA is?

    Show us the NRA platform and where it is working?
     
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    IOW, The Swedish government should not have disarmed its citizens.
     
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    The filibuster is a parliamentary trick whose main use is to block needed reforms and guarantee that unpopular authoritarian/racist statutes are undisturbed. Its main use in this century has been to block landmark civil rights legislation. Why shouldn't DC be a State? Aren't its people citizens? Why shouldn't they be able to vote? The Constitution is changeable for a reason

    Once again you watch too many movies and they're all Republican vehicles from the '30s and '40s. You probably wouldn't even be alive if those people still ran the world
     
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    you mean they are trying to go back to how our nations was for the majority of its history when we did not have a stupid ass rule like the filibuster?
     
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    The huge majority of violence in the US does not involve a gun.
    How, exactly, do you suggest we change the culture that is most responsible for the gun-related violence?
     
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    Yes. This is why the Democrats are happy to use it.
     
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    If people are traveled and worldly....... then they should have the wisdom that comes with that. Being exposed to other nations gives one an idea of how they handle their weapons / and weapon ownership. Are there any ideas that might be incorporated into this country.........that would have an effect to decrease deaths by mass shootings. .......

    Guns are not going to go away. What matters is how owners handle them. and how they comport themselves.

    People who cannot be responsible in the area of gun ownership should not have them.

    It is not just mass shootings that factor in. Remember the chap who was cleaning his gun, as his infant sat beside him.......... and the gun went off ....killing the infant. How is that RESPONSIBLE gun ownership. Why would any one service his weapon with children in the vicinity?? People should take a gun handling workshop as well as shooting classes ......before being ale to buy a gun. They should update and review their skills and knowledge every year.
     
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    I have. I am.
    My wisdom: People who live in the US have no idea how fortunate they are to live in the US.
    This might be worthwhile, if you can demonstrate the necessary relationship between the laws of those nations and their lower rates of gun related violence.
     
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    That was tongue in cheek.............
     
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    The NRA platform is to sell more guns. More guns all the time to everybody and boy does it seem to be working. The NRA platform is to de facto enable mass murderers and then to hide behind the "FRREEDDOMM" bullshit like the cowards they are when somebody calls them on it. The Constitution is not a suicide pact. It does not approve of the random slaughter of innocent human beings
     
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    Don't think you can. Things re too entrenched in some ways. Guns have played a role throughout US history.

    I used to think change was possible.......but the series of shootings, the usual words for change and noting happening is a recurring pattern. Seems one has to accept that shootings and guns are a vita part of America' s fabric. It is what it is. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
     
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    There is a legitimate justification for motorized transportation. And, we have multiple agencies plus our legislatures taking active part in making it safer.

    With gun deaths we get the Ted Cruz/NRA "it's too soon to talk about" each and every time we have a mass shooting event.
     

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