Curious...do homophobes think they're going to "bring it all back"?

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    The statement was accurate. YOU cant comprehend the difference between being "reduced" and being eliminated. OBVIOUSLY.
     
  2. RightToLife

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    I wonder how many soldiers have been molested or raped by other gay soldiers since theyve lifted the ban...or do you not care about their rights?

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    gays have sex with other men. if you allow gays to be near kids, homolestation will increase weather you like it or not. That is a strait up fact.
     
  3. Johnny-C

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    I wonder when we will find better ways of showing to others their own homophobia... AND making it clearer to them that it is completely 'unacceptable'?

    Shocker.

    If we don't get and keep homophobia in-check... it will remain a serious detriment to this society. It should never be tolerated, IMO.
     
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    hmmm... so to you the right of a few homosexuals to be in the military/boyscouts outweighs the rights of the innocent people being homolested? and as a whole we just have to accept these homolestings in the name of "equality" ?

    I'm glad many others feel as I do and are taking a stand on this. Gayness shouldnt be tolerated IMO, send them to canada lol...

    forreal tho I wish there were 2 Americas again one for the conservatives and one for the liberal (*)(*)(*)(*).... Liberals are a danger to everyone and eventually will turn everyone against each other, even their own kind
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Do you actually believe there were no gay soldiers in the military before the ban?

    If you do you're very much mistaken and it really shows how disconnected from reality you are.

    Do you know the statistics for female soldiers being raped? Because its pretty disgusting, and the army had come out to say that females soldiers being raped is just a job hazard, nothing more.

    As for gays molesting children, again, if you can't tell the difference between two adults of the same gender having consensual sex and an adult raping a child, you need to not be allowed around children.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    So apparently you really can't tell the difference between two adults having sex and an adult raping a child.

    My advice is if you are that thick or confused you really should keep yourself away from children.
     
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    RTL is 18. No reason to argue with him. Let's hope college at least teaches him how to write.
     
  8. RightToLife

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    Youare the only one obviously disconnected from reality. Gays in the military couldnt be gay.... if they did anything homosexual or came out they lost their job. Now, gays can openly be in the military. only increasing their ranks and to a degree making their rapes more acceptable in a sense....

    Lmao, you shouldnt be allowed around children obviously. You dont give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about them. u want more gay scout leaders and teachers to homolest the kids. Again you dont care about a child's right not to be raped. Yes I know the difference between pedophilia and sex, however increasing the amount of homosexuals with kids will only increase the amount of homosexual rape and homolestation of children. Not all homo's are pedophiles, but all homolesters are homosexuals. which you fail to understand
     
  9. Johnny-C

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    Well, people can keep 'fighting'... but as Dr. King said:

    No one can 'stop' the wind by resisting it. Homosexuality, gay relationships and the people clamoring for greater rights, freedoms and liberties concerning the same (being resisted), will (at best) only 'slow' the change that is already in-progress. It is obvious that MORE rights for homosexual people, is the way this and other societies are moving.
     
  10. RightToLife

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    lmao... what happened to bigotry... seems like its your best friend now.
     
  11. Johnny-C

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    You're correct. I've worked with thousands of America's best in the U.S. Military. The latest generation certainly aren't all 'gay'... but they do realize and accept that homosexual people are just as worthy of respect and dignity as anyone else.

    It is awesome to see the change unfold right before one's eyes.
     
  12. Johnny-C

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    Got proof?

    And I'd love to know the mechanics of why a gay person has sex with the opposite sex. I can assure you that many gay people aren't attracted to the opposite sex.

    So again... how can you PROVE this so-called "majority" you claim?
     
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    Only an idiot would. I've been in for 30+ years. I've seen/known and known of straight, gay, bi-curious, bisexual and the closeted guys/gals on the down-low. They are ALL a part of the military... both then and now.

    Don't believe the CRAP these people pretending to NOT know are spewing. They are only putting out thinly-veiled justification for their ignorance and associated irrational animus toward anyone/anything 'homosexual'.

    Have hope. I can tell you firsthand, that we are leaning HARD toward zero tolerance of and severely punishing sexual crimes in the military.

    I don't have any patience for the fools who think/believe or suggest the notion that homosexual MUST = pedophile. :)
     
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    Wanting you to learn is not bigotry.
     
  15. RightToLife

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    Bigotry against my age. Because I am 18 my opinion is invalid and I need a liberal education lmao
     
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    No- you just need an education, period. I pretty much knew your were younger just by your grammar.
     
  17. RightToLife

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    already have one, thanks
     
  18. Johnny-C

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    Clearly, no one knows all. If you've stopped learning... you'll not go very far.
     
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    No apparently you can't grasp the difference between an adult raping a child and a pair of adults having consensual sex.

    I suggest you stay away from children.

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    Capitalization and periods, apparently you skipped english class.
     
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    Gemini_Fyre New Member

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    I'll acknowledge that the acceptance of homosexuality is grudgingly becoming more acceptable. What I am saying is that there will always be a significant segment of people that will oppose it at every point in turn.

    Erecting 'wind breaks' so to speak.
     
  21. RightToLife

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    Oh i agree, im always learning.... just cause I dont do it in a liberal death trap doesnt mean I stopped learning

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    I suggest u stay away from children because you want them to be raped

    like i care about grammar online, what to i cain from capitalization and punctuation? do i get points off if i dont? nah, its just a waste of my time
     
  22. Johnny-C

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    I see. But at some point, their protests will become marginalized and insignificant; as they generally should be.
     
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    Perfectly valid point.

    Stupid assumption.

    It isn't a waste of time if you want people to address you with any amount of respect. It isn't a waste of time if you want people even read what you are writing. If your writing is abysmal, people simply will dismiss you for sounding like an idiot, most of the time - even if you are speaking pearls of wisdom. A pearl of wisdom covered in pig (*)(*)(*)(*) just looks like a pile of pig (*)(*)(*)(*). Nothing more.

    Presentation has its purposes. Took me a decade to learn when it matters and when it doesn't. Sooner you learn this, the easier your life will be. To prove my point, next time you need a resume sent off, mail one hand written with a crayon, and the other typed up properly with a cover letter. See how that turns out.

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    Perfectly valid point.

    Stupid assumption.

    It isn't a waste of time if you want people to address you with any amount of respect. It isn't a waste of time if you want people even read what you are writing. If your writing is abysmal, people simply will dismiss you for sounding like an idiot, most of the time - even if you are speaking pearls of wisdom. A pearl of wisdom covered in pig (*)(*)(*)(*) just looks like a pile of pig (*)(*)(*)(*). Nothing more.

    Presentation has its purposes. Took me a decade to learn when it matters and when it doesn't. Sooner you learn this, the easier your life will be. To prove my point, next time you need a resume sent off, mail one hand written with a crayon, and the other typed up properly with a cover letter. See how that turns out.

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    I don't think there is anything wrong with people wanting to preserve social trends that they see as beneficial. Others may disagree of course, but I don't see the evil of it.
     
  24. Johnny-C

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    Their desire to preserve social trends is one thing; the efficacy or benefit of the same within a given society is another. There are a lot of traditions or norms I could look back at and seek to re-adopt, but my desire to do that must not necessarily be accepted by the society in which I live.

    I admit, that it is a bit amazing to see the view of the populace toward homosexuality change as much as it has in the last 20+ years. But what is most significant about that IMO, is what has changed around that:

    Homosexual people accept themselves more readily.

    Homosexual people realize that fighting/advocating for their rights/humanity (philosophically, politically, physically) is actually worthwhile.

    Most heterosexual people realize that homosexuals are typically decent human beings, not monsters/freaks or other such homophobic notions.



    And that is just 'some' of it.

    Because the veils are being lifted and various hateful myths being dispelled, the irrational animus and homophobia thrown up about AND into the faces of homosexual people is losing its effectiveness. And logically, that is as it should be.

    From my 'closet', I watched/observed the bigoted foolishness of MANY toward homosexuals. I was quietly appalled and astounded likely thousands of times. And from that, I have learned to 'affect' other human beings concerning homosexuality. The changes we've seen in this society may surely seem nuanced (as they take place over relatively large periods of time)... even so, the "social trends" now include greater acceptance of homosexuals as an integral aspect; it is now an inextricably significant part of American culture.

    I saw this day coming, but like many... had little idea as to what changes would happen when. And it never shocks me that people tend to push for greater liberties and freedoms. That to me, is reasonably human.
     
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    Here is my thing. If they want to be gay - fine. Just don't make it a point to provoke others about it. Not all gays do this I understand. But when things like this are put into play-

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    and this...

    ...my respect and willingness to tolerate goes down hill rapidly. I know this is not representative of all gays. But this is not helping them be viewed in a a positive light. This damaging segment of the gay population is really hurting the more normal majority of them. Not doing them any favors in their eternal quest to be accepted and not judged. If you want to represent gay rights and such, you can't dress and act like a circus performer who shows it all.

    Just like super zealous and misguided 'Christians' who tell people they are going to hell if they don't lock step, or any other religion for that matter.

    This is more acceptable-

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    As is this-

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    Granted, I am still not thrilled about the prospect of it "coming to a neighborhood near me soon". I am less inspired to load a shotgun with rock salt to repel blatantly disgusting displays.

    See where I'm coming from now?

    Presentation, it is key.
     
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