Damned terrorists

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We could say that the US govt is infiltrated by a military industrial complex that prioritizes weapon sales and military conflict over peaceful resolution and de-escalation... but then Biden might get less votes and Ukraine might not reconquer their pro-Russian seperatist eastern region. So I guess we can't call things what they are and put the brakes on war until after the election.

    Sorry civilians, Biden has an election to win, and he needs those war donations.
     
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  2. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    The volunteer murdered by netandyahoo was an Afghanistan war veteran from UK.

    Unfortunately UK is in no position to launch an assault on Israel, with only 70,000 troops available. We would need USA to launch a ground assault on the Knesset from the port they are working at in Gaza, then the UK could follow up with an aerial assault from cypress..
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That’s one paranoid rabbit hole you got going there.
    The truth is that politics is infiltrated by lobbyists of all kinds, a time honored capitalist tradition.
    Maybe you’d see reality more clearly if you weren’t devoted to twisting everything into some partisan screed just to stick it to the libs.
     
  4. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really?

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...nt-there/0000018e-9e75-d764-adff-9eff29360000

    "At some point, when the convoy was driving along the approved route, the war room of the unit responsible for security of the route ordered the drone operators to attack one of the cars with a missile.


    Some of the passengers were seen leaving the car after it was hit and switching to one of the other two cars. They continued to drive and even notified the people responsible that they were attacked, but, seconds later, another missile hit their car.

    The third car in the convoy approached, and the passengers began to transfer to it the wounded who had survived the second strike – in order to get them out of danger. But then a third missile struck them. All seven World Central Kitchen volunteers were killed in the strike."

    3 strikes on clearly marked non-combatants.

    But you go on telling me about Israel's purity of heart.
     
  5. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hamas frequently hides behind such markings.

    Again. You have said you take no sides, but you fail to condemn Hamas.
     
  6. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have.
    Hamas attack was wrong, it was murder.

    But you're here3 defending the murder of innocents because...

    In your mind murdering innocent Palestinians is OK but murdering innocent Israelis is worthy of genocide.
     
  7. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its the prog's alliance with the neocons 'sticking it to the libs', not me.
     
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  8. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hamas is the elected government of Palestine. Hamas needs to release the hostages and turn themselves in to face trial in Israel. Hamas needs to be gone.

    You are making stuff up. I have never said murdering innocent Palestinians is OK. They are a casualty of war started by their own government. I don't want any innocent civilians killed. That includes Israelis and Palestinians.
     
  9. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You said that the murder of innocents was OK BECAUSE HAMAS hides amongst them.

    There were no HAMAS in that convoy.
    Just innocents
    That Israel targeted 3 times, the final attack as they were moving the wounded into the third vehicle. There was no threat there, it was just murder.

    You've justified killing innocent Palestinians again and again.

    Whether you like it or not, that is the truth.
    That the truth troubles you gives hope you may be willing, at some point, be able to step away for your bias and recognize a religious war when you see one.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Spinning yarns isn't going to help you because the facts are still going to be the facts. Antisemitism in our own times. You just provided yet another example.
     
  11. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Make it make sense.
     
  12. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Show me where I used those words.

    Hamas leadership sometimes travels in vehicle which are marked as non-combatants. There has been speculation that Hamas intentionally spread bad intelligence that there were Hamas leaders in the convoy so that it would be attacked and Israel would be blamed. It is a tactic they have used before.
     
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    I agree.

    I thought for a few days about what I was going to write, and didn't just "jerk my knees," so to speak. The aid workers are selfless heroes, no doubt about that. Volunteerism is a large part of what makes the world a bearable place to live. We are all better off with volunteers.

    Unfortunately, the volunteers are "dancing in the middle of a three lane highway." The area is exceptionally dangerous. Were international aid workers permitted to venture into Okinawa during the battle of Okinawa in World War II?

    Hamas is doing his level best to increase the casualties among innocent people. Indeed, this war was started when Hamas decided to take a maximum number of innocent lives. They knew that even the most dovish Israeli government could not let an assault such as October 7, 2023 go unpunished. Indeed, that the October 7 massacre was of a variety that it had to be prevent it from recurring for all time. This necessitated a total war.

    Why is there no such breathless coverage of the original atrocity? We do not hear the life stories of each of the 1200 people murdered on October 7th for no good reason. I propose that every single day, The New York Times should run, as a front page story, a biography of one of the 1200 victims of the massacre. Complete with pictures of their infant children, spouses, and close friends left behind. If the newspapers had a teary story about each of those victims, and the people injured or captured, and the front page on each day of the newspaper, this would be balanced and fair coverage. I would be dreaming if I ever expect such a thing to happen.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
     
  15. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In other words you cannot come up with anything that says I am wrong.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For some reason I doubt someone like you sees much difference between a Hamas member, and a Palestinian civilian. Nor do you likely think that Israel should go through extreme measures to avoid those civilian deaths.
     

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