Dashcam video appears to show Fort Worth cop shooting man in the back

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  1. Geau74

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    They do not want you to say that you are grateful. They want you to show that you are by recognizing that there is more to it than superficial analysis and second guessing. They are tired of doing a thankless job with the very people that they serve the most sticking the knives in their backs.
     
  2. superbadbrutha

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    So what if they kill a few innocents folks, everyone should just look the other way and give them a pass.
     
  3. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm entitled to an opinion based on what I see.
     
  4. Geau74

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    Absolutely not! We have a system for enforcing laws against anyone who violates them. You may have heard of it, the criminal justice system.

    And then, if it is a police officer who is suspected of doing so, we have an additional system for enforcing against those people, called the U. S. Justice Department. The consequences of killing any innocent folks are severe.
     
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    Geau74 Member Past Donor

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    You absolutely ARE entitled to an opinion. Just please don't be offended if people who know more about these things than you do disagree with it.
     
  6. superbadbrutha

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    So why do we see these officer keep getting off the hook.

    Your right if they are convicted, but unfortunately we don't see that happen to often.
     
  7. Geau74

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    I thought that we had answered that question previously. There are a couple of reasons:
    1) Your inquiry is result driven, that is, you seek a certain result and consider only the facts that lead to the result that you demand, whereas the justice system is fact driven. It assembles ALL of the facts and is content with the result that the facts demand.

    2) You make judgments, notwithstanding that you are not a judge, based upon assumptions of the existence of circumstances that you cannot possibly, and do not, know. When you do these things, you are doomed to fail.

    And finally, there are overwhelmingly altruistic police officers out there who risk their lives every day and night to protect people who are clueless as to the sacrifices that those police officers make for them, and relentlessly ungrateful (notwithstanding their exclamations of gratitude).
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    Well first you say we don't now you say we do can you please make up your mind?

    Yes they can, if they believe the person is a threat to someone else.

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    Really........if you say so.
     
  9. Mr_Truth

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    ... and presumably to use them like these folks, right?



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  10. truth and justice

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    Your point number 2: What evidence is being withheld (circumstances that could not be known) ?

    In this case, the victim did not run, did not point anything at any officer and was shot within 5 seconds of the officer leaving the car. No sound on video (even though posters in this thread have stated that the victim disobeyed orders!). Yet with all this evidence, that officer is now back on duty.
     
  11. vman12

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    Are those folks the NBPP?

    I condemn them for their racist, KKK-equivalent platform, but I defend their right to both legally bear arms and be morons.
     
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    So two of the most liberal cities in America have racist, corrupt cops?

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    Where have they gotten off the hook for a bad shooting?
     
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    KKK are morons? I won't argue that esp in view of what appears on my sig.

    I won't say that's true of NBPP, though. ;)
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All groups based on racism are, and the NBPP is no different than the KKK. Other than the obvious skin color differences.

    So do you agree with the below quotes? If so please explain how they're any different than white racist groups like the KKK.

    "Our lessons talk about the bloodsuckers of the poor… . It's that old no-good Jew, that old imposter Jew, that old hooked-nose, bagel-eating, lox-eating, Johnny-come-lately, perpetrating-a-fraud, just-crawled-out-of-the-caves-and-hills-of-Europe, so-called damn Jew … and I feel everything I'm saying up here is kosher."
    — Khalid Abdul Muhammad, one of the party's future leaders, Baltimore, Md., Feb. 19, 1994

    "Kill every (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) Zionist in Israel! (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) little babies, (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) old ladies! Blow up Zionist supermarkets!"
    —Malik Zulu Shabazz, the party's national chairman, protesting at B'nai B'rith International headquarters in Washington, D.C., April 20, 2002

    "I hate white people. All of them. Every last iota of a cracker, I hate it. We didn't come out here to play today. There's too much serious business going on in the black community to be out here sliding through South Street with white, dirty, cracker whore (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es on our arms, and we call ourselves black men. … What the hell is wrong with you black man? You at a doomsday with a white girl on your damn arm. We keep begging white people for freedom! No wonder we not free! Your enemy cannot make you free, fool! You want freedom? You going to have to kill some crackers! You going to have to kill some of their babies!"
    — King Samir Shabazz, head of the party's Philadelphia chapter, in a National Geographic documentary, January 2009

    Even the uber liberal SPLC classifies them as "virulently racist organization".

    "The New Black Panther Party is a virulently racist and anti-Semitic organization whose leaders have encouraged violence against whites, Jews and law enforcement officers."

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/new-black-panther-party
     
  15. Bluesguy

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    Why do you promote David Duke and give him any credibilty?
     
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    What does the cities being liberal have to do with it?

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    Amadou Diallo, Walter Scott.

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    Continue to play dumb, that is working out great for you.

    So he figured out in 5 seconds that he was a threat to someone else when no one else was around. Wow.

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    That is basically what you are telling us.
     
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    Because most liberal cities are a bankrupt, crime scene horror show that virtually no one wants to live in or go to...

    [video=youtube;bVDDYQlmq0w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVDDYQlmq0w[/video]
     
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    What explanation did the officer give?
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    Your attempts and invective notwithstanding I'll take that as an admittance of your duplicity, thank you very much.



    So you figured out your statement was totally fallacious....take you very much.

    No that is what YOU told us and if you say so.................
     
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    Oh grow up yourself instead of sniffling at me.
     
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    This is their explantation:
    The officers allege that Collie first ducked down behind a bush when they appeared and then attempted to flee while ignoring orders to stop and remove his hand from his pocket.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...4349be4b0de3a08f708cf?section=us_black-voices


    It is of course not true.
    He was never fleeing, he never ducked down behind a bush.

    White cops, lying and trying to kill black people.
    Rather typical. Even the part that they are getting away with it.
    And why there is no sound... yeah them cops probably "fixed" that too.

    Charges of aggravated assault on a public servant were dropped.
    So that means,.. they just shot a totally innocent person with no reason.

    Takes half a year for the cops to publish the video, while the police review is still a top secret.
    Totally figures.
     
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    It's kind of hard to start a KKK police force under a liberal mayor and council, isn't it?
     
  23. superbadbrutha

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    I don't know about a KKK police force, but isn't NYC and LA considered as liberal and look at the history of their police forces.

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    Yea kind of like the police can shoot a fleeing suspect in the back who is not a threat to him or anyone else.

    You had to back up and punt on that lie didn't you.
     
  24. truth and justice

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    You might have to look at the states in the top ten of highest household income and see which party is in control, then come back here
     
  25. Bluesguy

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    Not at all you are one having to move your goal post not me.
     

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