David Hogg pushes Laura Ingraham boycott after Fox News host taunts him over college admissions

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  1. Mac-7

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    He’s not old enough to have first hand knowledge of vast numbers of parents

    But hogg does have 17 years experience with his own parents
     
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    First- I'm not complaining about Hogg being an ignorant arrogant teenager- he has plenty of company and a large number of us were smarter than our parents at 16.
    I am complaining about that attitude being endorsed and glamorized as something coming from an insightful, thoughtful mind, well-considered and logical- and that is piss-poor media judgment, combined with covert promotion from the anti-gun nuts. Do you want children running the country? Do you let them run your household? That is what is wrong here. The idea that there is some great wisdom coming from them that is beyond us all is HOGGWASH.

    As for what he is saying, the quote above tells you how he thinks. In normal mode, he can't make any point with out prefacing it with "lie, you know". Then look at the quotes that get publicized as his thoughtful comments- and you realize that these didn't come from the same mind at all, they were scripted for him.

    As for guns- You obviously haven't considered any view but your own, and that is unfortunately the way most liberals think. The children of people who defend the 2nd amendment are just as much at risk as anybody elses, and they love their kids just as much too. They have the same interests, but see the problem differently. The anti-gun people think that if they eliminated guns, they would eliminate homicides, or at least greatly reduce them. That requires a huge suspension of logic, because no person killed with a weapon was killed BY the weapon except as a tool of the person who wanted to kill them. It is the people who kill- and they just can't seem to understand that. The logic is that if someone was killed with a rock, then if we just pulverize all the rocks to sand, people won't be killed. Like most other things in the world- the devices are innocent, they have no evil motive- it is the people with evil intent that are behind it. While we register guns- we still refuse to register mentally disturbed and violent people. Ask yourself what would happen if we removed the wackos roaming free in America, and left the guns alone.
     
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    Yeah, sure--the kids have been "brainwashed" and would otherwise have shared your generation's racism, sexism, extreme pro-life mentality, be worked up over who goes in which bathroom, and wanting more of your "war on drugs."
    You do know that young people are waiting for you and your pals to exit the stage so they can bring some sanity to our society--right?
     
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    Having 17 years of experience with your parents is hardly a basis for judgment. What it does is program you to a form of thinking. You need adult experience in a broader setting to be able to compare and evaluate. Hogg, like all kids his age, lack that. As the old quote goes- "My dad was really stupid when I was in my teens, but he's got a lot smarter over the years."
     
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    Ingram is a shill for money types filling the Angry Middle-Aged White Male Rightwing Religious Traditionalist Open Mouth Media Echo Chamber with propaganda for you folks to lap up.

    Think not? When will Trump stop doctors, insurers, and drug companies from successfully conniving to charge us the highest healthcare costs in the world? When will the Bloviator-in-Chief propose and effective e-verify system to stop illegals from getting jobs? Half of illegals overstay a visa, so a wall won't stop them.
    It's good propaganda to get young people off their butts. Having taught computers for years, I know young people aren't all that savvy about computers.
    He's a propagandist and a fairly good one.
    The kid ate her lunch after she served it up for him. She underestimated the kid.
    The kid is no doubt a lot smarter than most of Trumpites who, sadly, think the Fat Guy will get him their low-skill, high-wage jobs back. I know they're desperate, but they need to wake up.
     
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    Langley, the problem with that last line is that these kids do not know what sanity is. This is not to say the older generations have done everything right- but remember, they too wanted to solve the worlds problems with their ideas, and found out things didn't work quite like they assumed they would. These kids will discover that too.

    Right now, their sanity includes trash tattoos, piercings, dress and hair that makes many of them unemployable in most circles. It includes a lot of drugs (and don't forget many of them were raised on drugs like Ritalyn, because the previous generation had great ideas) and a variety of strange ideas like thinking you can be male or female by choice or mood at the moment, and that while racism is terrible, all white males are nazis and white supremacists.... but of course, they want to be respected while they trash others they don't agree with without a moments thought that they are exactly what they hate. This crap of kids being so smart and their parents stupid is hardly new, is it? Of course- in 40 years, they will be on the other end of the problem, because their kids will think them idiots and insult them, blame them for not making the world perfect, and think that it's all so simple. One of mine that is now 50 wrote a poem to me. First line.... "I was 16, if I recall, when I realized I knew it all..."
    Most teens over the generations could say the same.

    There is no experience for accepting and exercising adult responsibility. You can teach them all about it- usually while they snicker and laugh at it- but then when the rubber meets the road, the real education begins.... and a large number of them will fail miserably.
     
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    True

    Gogg knows as little about people as he does about guns
     
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    Snowflakes don't bang porn stars.
     
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    Spanky is a slut who cheats on all his wives but yet he gets hurt so easily and lashes out . Here is the definition of a snowflake ....and that’s him, that’s why his staff has to constantly praise him...and if they don’t the snowflake will lash out
    Someone who is easily hurt or offended by the statements or actions of others.
     
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    Or as it's known in other parlance "Player Hate."
     
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    "the Constitution is just a godd@mn piece of paper"
    ~ Republican Bush
     
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    I am from the same generation.

    We didn't go around shooting in school but the pols started a major war in Vietnam and killed more youths than are killed today in schools or wherever.
     
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    I will never forget that Democrats sent us (me) to a exotic, distant land to meet exciting, unusual people and kill them.

    And while on the battlefield those same Democrats back stabbed us.
     
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    REPUBLICAN Bush? like there is any difference in the corrupt two party system? Like you seriously think Obama believed inb the constitution? comedy gold.LOL
     
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    If you think that backstabbing is fighting against an immoral war then so be it. Luckily we were able to stop at about 60,000 Americans killed. What did we accomplish? You were sent there to die for nothing. Did you volunteer
     
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    There is the most disgusting picture online. Some right wing ******* is shooting at a target and the target is Hogg’s face. Yep, we need people like that with guns,,,what a man!
     
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    I was a draft dodger, I enlisted (volunteered) like most who served during the Vietnam War era. 40% of all males of military age (65-73) served.
    8 million served on active duty and 2 million is the reserves or the Guard while 6 million student deferments were issued.

    The War in Vietnam wasn't immoral, we should have never been there in the first place but JFK and LBJ and the "young and brightest" who they surrounded themselves with ignored their elders and saw things differently.

    The Vietnam War could have been won and brought to an end in 1965 and again in 1968 and 1969.

    It was the anti war movement on the streets of America that prolonged the war. Remember that the leadership of the counter culture movement and the anti war movement got their marching orders from the Kremlin. The left in America wasn't against the Vietnam War but were against America or the RVN winning the war.
     
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    Thank goodness the anti war movement stopped the war, “soldiers weren’t sacred and civilians weren’t the enemies”
    My husband served and then became an anti war activist...he was gung ho and then realized the war was wrong.
    Tell me, what did we lose other than 60,000 dead soldiers and hundreds of thousands of wounded and damaged young men and women?what would we have gained if we lost more people?
    Did you serve in Vietnam?
     
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    June 69 to July 70.
    1/13; 1/26; 2/26; Sub Unit One 1st ANGLICO

    BTW:
    Tell your husband I said "Welcome Home."

    Did your husband at the time know that his leaders of the anti war movement got their marching orders from the Kremlin ?

    After Tet of 68 North Vietnam was about to throw in the towel but they looked at the anti war movement on the streets of America and decided to keep fighting on.

    The anti war movement prolonged the war in Vietnam.

    Remember, the SDS weren't against the Vietnam War...they were against the United States and the RVN winning the war.
     
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    What did we lose by pulling out? We went to Vietnam recently and they seem to be doing fine. What is it you were fighting for?
    You should watch the ken burns series on Vietnam . Macnamara said the war was not winnable ....
    The leaders of the anti war movement didn’t get marching orders from the kremlin, stop being ridiculous.....wasnt hundreds of thousand dead and maimed Americans enough for you?
     
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    Ken Burns got it wrong with his "Civil War" PC revisionism and he did it again with his Vietnam War series.

    Every Vietnam vet can point out something where Ken Burns got it wrong. Liberals usually get history wrong since they adopted cultural-marxisn revisionist history.

    Not once...not once did Ken Burns mentioned SEATO. Just about every adolescence, teenager and adult between 1961 to 1966 heard of SEATO which made America and it's SEATO allies involvement in Southeast Asia legal.

    Burns only mentioned once that JFK cut off most funding for Eisenhower secret war in Laos back in 1961 and defended JFK's signing off on the CIA backed military coups of regime change in 1963 that backed fire and from that day America owned South Vietnam and became America's problem.
    The world watched...If SEATO failed NATO was likely to fail.
    Burns never mentioned that.


     
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    You still haven’t answered my question. What would we have gained had we not gone into Vietnam other than hundreds of thousands not killed or maimed
    You want to glorify a war and I found it despicable. Mai lai was an example....we shouldNt have been there, I understand that you need to justify it but those who were fighting to end it were not your enemies.
     
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    Okay here you are contradicting yourself here. You said the war in vietnam was not immoral which is a laugh in itself because what you said here that is spot on is we never should have been there in the first place.

    Oh and JFK was against the war.Its documented that he wanted no part of it but he had to wait until his second term to do so because he would lose support from the american people if he pulled out his first term.

    any serious researcher knows the CIA killed JFK because he was going to pull out of the war by the end of 1965. Thats all been documented in the release of files where he signed NSM # 63 two months before his assassinaion that called for a complete withdrawal from vietnam by 1965/ two days after his assassination,Johnson signed document NSM # 273 that REVERSED kennedys policy on vietnam. Please stop holding back the facts.

    Johnson and Nixon murdered 58,0000 americans,it wasnt the vietcong or the NVA.it was those two a$$ jerk bastards.
     
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    we would have gained nothing,it was done for pure profit,thats what war is all about. Eisenhower tried to warn the people of how dangerous the military industrial complex was that Kennedy was battling in his farewell address speech,too bad they did not listen.
     
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    You're knowledge of the Vietnam War is revisionist history.

    Before March of 1962 there was no MACV in Vietnam. Before MACV there was MAAG that was actually under the control of the U.S. State Department and the CIA.

    On the morning of January 20th, 1961 outgoing President Eisenhower warned incoming President John F. Kennedy do not get involved with the Diem regime, it was to corrupt and don't make a stand at the 17th parallel if you are going to try to stop Communist expansion in Southeast Asia. That can only be done in Laos by preventing North Vietnam access to what would become known as a Ho Chi Minh Trail.
     

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