"Day" in Genesis vs. "Day" in the NT...an Old Earth Creationist dilemma-

The text doesn't say three literal 24 hour periods...

It says "Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights."

The text does not give specifics about the exact time of day that Jonah was swallowed, so inferring that it equates to 72 hours is unfounded..

 

... is based on evidence...

 

You didn't answer his question.

 

I believe Jonah was in the belly of the fish for 3 days and 3 nights, but I doubt it was EXACTLY 72 hours.

three literal 24 hour period days ≠ 3 days and 3 nights

 

Do you think that is the point, or are you simply using that to avoid the conversation?

 

Maybe I am misunderstanding the point.. What is the actual question? Does a day always mean 24 hours in the Bible? I would say, of course not. Anyone should be able to read it and figure that out.

 

Please provide a reference indicating the existence of
Princeton’s Institute for Advanced Science



The evidence provieded are taken by the predisposed, as evidence of a "god".

They sure are not evidence of any particular god, less still of one
who cares about foreskin and sends angels to kill babies.

What would make you think you know anything about which god, if any that people worship, it might be?

Did you ever try to calculate the odds of your having ever been born?

So you also believe in the "flood" too, despite all the evidence (proof) that it did not?

 

Yes. The flood account is literal as well.

I've never seen proof that it did not happen.

 

Seriously?

You sure have not put much effort into it.

Probably best not to; cognitive dissonance can be rough.

The signs of it would be extremely obvious, yet there is nothing.

No more than there is for your so-called "Princeton's Institute For Advanced Science".

The falsehoods from the creos roll on and on.

 

Doesn’t the following throw a monkey wrench into any literal interpretation of the Jonah/whale business?

Jonah 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; The earth with her bars was about me forever….

Might as well blame Egypt or Babylon.

3:3 says it took three days journey to cross the enormous city Nineveh.

Is that believable?

There are other minor contributors:

Nineveh and its legendary founder Ninus are probably derived from Niniv, one of the Assyrian Elohim.

Jonah’s father Amittai may be derived from Amriti, the Hindu “waters of life.”

 

It's actually "Princeton Institute For Advanced Studies", i referenced a misprint. The actual statement was in the International Philosophical Quarterly 27, no. 4

You sure have not put much effort into researching the flood for youself.

Probably best not to; the reality of God scares a lot of people..


Evidence of the flood:
http://www.academia.edu/386944/New_Light_on_Human_Prehistory_in_the_Arabo-Persian_Gulf_Oasis

- an extendned rain storm,
- a seismic event releasing aquifer water(as described in the bible)
- Indian Ocean water coming through the Strait of Hormuz,
- heat melting the snow of nearby mountains

 

Where are you getting "world wide flood" from?

The text taken literally within the context suggests a regional flood.

 

And everyone else.

 

one can use no assumptions if God exists, as God can do anything. Maybe even create an old earth?

 

But you think >60 and < 72? hrs that is.

 

But were they REAL "days" that Jonah was in the fish?

You said you don't think the "days" in the Creation story were actual 24 hour days, right? So how do we know the days (or even nights....remember Genesis mentions "evenings") were atual 24 hour days for Jonah?

 

Interesting, you find the time from adam and eve to noah a few thousand years(in todays time reference) or hundreds of thousands of years?
How long ago(in todays 24hr time period for a day, 365 days/yr) was the flood?

 

Genesis 6:7 "So the Lord said, &#8220;I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created&#8212;and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground&#8212;for I regret that I have made them.&#8221;


Genesis 7:24 "The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days."

Genesis 8 "8 But God remembered Noah and all the wild animals and the livestock that were with him in the ark, and he sent a wind over the earth, and the waters receded. 2 Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky. 3 The water receded steadily from the earth."

 

17 For forty days the flood kept coming on the earth, and as the waters increased they lifted the ark high above the earth. 18 The waters rose and increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the water. 19 They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. 20 The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than fifteen cubits.[g][h] 21 Every living thing that moved on land perished&#8212;birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. 22 Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23 Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+6-9&version=NIV

I see nothing regional about Genesis 6-9

 

~60,000 years - some time before humans began spreading rapidly from Africa..

 

Apparently we missed part of Genesis 6:7 "So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth....localized to Mesopotamia of course.... the human race I have created."

 

In English Bibles the word earth has been poorly translated. When translated literally it should read land.

Mankind did not inhabit the entire globe, therefore there was no reason to flood the entire globe.

There are several other places in scripture where the word in question is used to describe land.



See: Gen 4:16,Gen 6:12,Gen 6:13... etc

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=H776&t=KJV

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Mankind had not spread throughout the rest of the world yet... The word earth should read land

 

World wide is what it sounds like to me. Why bother gettin' all them "kinds" of animals, otherwise? Not to mention a local flood wont kill but the locals.

Its too vague to be taken "literally".


A lot of people think that a world wide flood is what the bible talks about

Same as some think there really was a 6 day poof, talking snake etc.

Nice to hear you are more sane than that.

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There were people far far from Africa long before 60 K years ago.

 

you have an example?