Dearborn, Michigan Arab Festival

Ah the far right fantasy of pure Fascism! Complete government control- book burnings....religions being banned and people arrested for their religious beliefs....governments confiscating private property.

Luckily the Constitution stands strong against the Fascist dreams that you have.

 

According to our founding fathers, the religion of the Muslims- and somehow I think they count more than your bizarre theories.

From the Treaty of Tripoli:
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—

And like every other religion in the United States, its followers must follow the Constitution and laws of the United States. Just as Christians cannot choose to stone to death an adulterer because someone decides that is what the Old Testament says, no Muslim can choose to break the law without legal consequences.

That is what the First Amendment is all about. And protecting all of us from the dictates of those who would deny any of us our relgious freedoms.

 

There were no extreme Christians there. The muslims were the only ones who were violent and the only ones who were breaking the law.

 

Let's back up here shall we? There were people who committed violence there, and they were probably Muslims.

They did not go looking for Christians to attack. The Muslims were not attacking Christians at a Catholic Parish Festival. The people who attacked, attacked extremist Christians who chose to come to the Muslims and tell them that their prophet was a murderer and pedophile, and that they were all going to hell.

I do not excuse the violence- but this was not a gang of Muslims roaming around looking for Christians to attack. This is same as if parents of dead soldiers beat up Westboro Church members. Yes it would be wrong, and yes they should be arrested. But we all see and recognize the provocation.

Meanwhile- how many attended the Festival? 300,000 people! That a few idiots got violent is bad. That 299,950 (presumably majority Muslim) shows that this is a response to provocation- not Muslims attacking Christians.

 

Oh and yes- these are extremists Christians - besides this they also picket the Mormon Church and lead protests against the Catholic Church- the leader is quite proud of his 'in your face' evangelism.

 

So the finger flipping, spitting, and assaulting has graduated up to rock and bottle throwing now. Just another example of the hostile, aggressive, warlike nature of Islam and the fools who follow such an uncivilized, barbaric culture.

One interesting part though is at 3:48 of the video when the guy in the blue shirt is asked what problem he has with the people in the demonstration (who all appear to be peaceful Christian missionaries). The blue-shirted guy says "They're causing hatred between the community"[/I] (his bad grammar not mine) "They're going against a religion that's protected"

When asked to define the trouble, he says "They bring in a whole SWAT team" I kind of doubt that the demonstrators arranged that (and this guy probably knows it too). At this point, for me, his sincerity level is dipping fast.

Then the blue shirt guy says "They're telling me that my prophet was a pedophile. You telling me that I'm not gonna get offended ? "

Well, Mr. blue shirt, not only am I telling you that your prophet (as you call him) was a pedophile, so is just about every person in the world, including many, if not most, Muslims, who believe pedophilia to be OK, since it is accepted in the Koran (sura 65:4). And historians for hundreds of years have reported that he was a pedophile, so why would anyone NOT tell you that he was a pedophile ? And YES, I'm telling you that you should not be offended by hearing the TRUTH. Get a life.

 

Five people face criminal charges after a weekend confrontation with members of a Kansas church group that pickets military funerals because it believes U.S. casualties in Iraq are a sign of God's punishment for America's tolerance of homosexuality, authorities said Monday.


Less than a dozen members of Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas, gathered in Seaford on Sunday for a protest in conjunction with the funeral of Marine Cpl. Cory Palmer, a local resident who died earlier this month from injuries suffered in Iraq.

On Sunday, the Kansas group, carrying signs reading "God Hates (*)(*)(*)(*)," "(*)(*)(*)(*) Doom Nations" and "Vengeance is Mine, Sayeth the Lord," was met by a crowd of about 1,000 angry counter-demonstrators shouting "USA! USA!" as well as various taunts and obscenities.

State troopers and Seaford police officers were positioned between the two factions, but authorities say a man broke through the police line and began assaulting two of the Westboro protesters shortly before the demonstration ended.


David Jones, 29, of Bridgeville, Delaware, was charged with two counts of third-degree assault and one count of disorderly conduct. He was released on $1,500 unsecured bond.


A 16-year-old Seaford boy was charged with criminal mischief and disorderly conduct after a tire on the Westboro group's rented van was slashed. He was being held at a detention center Monday in lieu of $1,000 bond.


Three other Seaford residents were charged with criminal mischief and disorderly conduct after several counter-demonstrators threw rocks and bottles at a fire department vehicle carrying the Westboro protesters away from the scene, breaking several windows. Each was released on $1,000 bond.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,196487,00.html#ixzz2AjBOIV3w

Apparently patriotic Americans- presumably Christians- throw rocks at Christians too.

 

off topic !!

 

The sentiment of the Westboro Baptist Church in a nut shell.

 

awwwwww- not enough Islam bashing for you?

 

Atheist liberals all lawyers poorly disguising themselves as christians.

Their actions are antichrist as are yours

 

Doesn't matter what the Christians said because the Christians were there legally. The muslims chose to commit violence and there is no excuse for it.

 

Now we're getting somewhere. Do you believe people need to shut up and never say anything that offends muslims?

 

Lol.....aren't you going to ask me if I am a Jew again?

What about the extremist Christians at the Arab Festival- how do we tell whether they are all atheist liberals disguising themselves as Christians are you are?

 

So now the Christians were the "Extremists", although none of them got violent. Think about that.

 

No of course not. That is antithetical to the United States. Just like it is my right to condemn bigoted anti-Muslim statements.

But....just like the Westboro Church- sometimes there is a violent reaction to deliberate antagonism. Violence is never the correct answer, but it is completely predictable that eventually it will happen.

 

Sigh. They are extremists just like the Westboro Baptist church

 

FALSE! It is precisely the Constitution that SUPPORTS everything I said in Post # 124. In fact, what I said is based on the US Constitution, Article 6, section 2, the Supremacy Clause, and here it is :

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

This thereby bans anything that would put itself supreme above the Constitution (which Islam does just that) Koranic supremacism is based on Koran 9.33: “(Allah) sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the kafirs may be averse.” Suras 2:193 and 61:9 also proclaim supremacism

Also, Islam is illegal by virtue of US Code 2384 : Seditious Conspiracy:

"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."

 

Whos extremist?

How many women and children did they blow up to pieces?

I want numbers, names.

Whay else did they do. Give me all the dirt on these dangerous christians.

Did they give out jesus tracts? I hear those are sometimes explosive.

 

The Westboro Baptists have nothing to do with this, and they have never been violent.

There is never an excuse for violence over a constitutional right in the United States. Your opinion may be that their speech is "deliberate antagonism", but it is still legal.

 

Doesn't matter who else's sentiment it is, no one should be offended by the TRUTH, and the TRUTH is that Mohammad was a pedophile. One of the biggest causes of trouble from Muslims is they refuse to accept what ever makes them feel uncomfortable.

Did it ever occur to them that if their ideology (masquerading as a "religion") makes them feel bad, they shouldn't be in it ?

 

Nope. They were preaching their Christian religion legally in the United States. The muslims got violent; therefore, they are the "extremists".

 

Changing the subject is hard-wired into Islamapologists.

 

That's how the cultic mind words. That's why the hard left has such a natural ally with muslims. They're both bound by cultic thinking.

 

Typical Islamist BS talk. What else is new ? Ho hum.