Death Penalty

I'm taking them from your posts. But you're right. They're stupid.

 

If you think you know the answer, why ask the question?

Quantrill

 

No. Your trying to form something that I didn't say and attribute it to me. Your not that clever.

Quantrill

 

To see if you'd be honest. But I should have known that answer, too.

 

Fortunately I don't need to be clever. I have your posts as evidence.
By the way, clever man, it's "you're", not "your".

 

I was honest. How do you know I wans't.

Quantrill

 

You cant make that determination from what I said. You just made it up. Something you excel in.

Quantrill

 

The real problem is that you are grammatically challenged, so what you think you are saying is not what you are writing. You have written exactly what I am posting, but you can't figure out how to say whatever point it is you are trying to make, and instead have written that justice (sorry, vengeance) has something to do with medicine, which is assinine I'm sure you agree. Well of course you agree. You are running from what you have written now, because it is foolish and embarrassing.

 

Reread. I made comparison with mistakes in the medical field and in the judicial field. You however are trying to make it say medicine and justice are the same. They are not the same, but mistakes made by them are the same.

Is that too hard? And how do you know I was being dishonest?

Quantrill

 

Here's your silly quote again.
You re-read it. See if you can make head or tail of it, and good luck.

 

Because you believe in vengeance, and certainly you would want to be avenged of the injustice perpetrated upon you. You don't strike me as the meek retiring type.
Too bad. They shall inherit the earth.

 

Where did you answer? No you just keep repeating 'because it is' which is not an answer.

I'm not scared, I just want ONE question at a time. What of this do you not comprehend?

No you haven;t you are totally avoiding them.

You didnt understand my question. How does one determine the punishment? Are you advocating an eye for an eye as the correction for every injustice?

 

You assume. And your wrong.

Vengeance is not bad. It is just executed by God.

You don't understand 'meek'.

Quantrill

 

What does it matter how one determines the punishment. That it results in death is what matters.

Quantrill

 

You have repeatedly failed to show why it matters. Why is death a just response to murder? Why? Tell me why?

 

The link supplied here does not provide evidence that public execution does not have a correlation to deterrence. It merely gives the opinion of one single person (Spencer Horatio Walpole). That's not evidence.

I think it is common sense that public executions would indeed be a strong deterrent to serious crime.

 

For one thing, it protects against more people being murdered by that person.
Also, it does seem fair for someone to give up their life if they've unjustly taken the life of another.

 

So does prison, hence execution is not validated by this point.

Why does that seem fair?

 

"...there is generally no utility in executions ..."

FALSE !

1. Executions protect against more people being killed by the killer.

2. They provide a deterrence to killing.

3. They provide justice for the victim(s).

 

It has already been established prisons can do this, so this point is void.

Evidence?

How so?

 

FALSE ! On numerous occasions murders have been committed inside prisons by one convict upon another. A murdered convict may have broken the law to have him be where he is in that prison, but that doesn't mean he should be subjected to be killed.

Also, many murders have been committed by prison inmates upon people OUTSIDE the prison too, as by crime bosses who order hits on someone from their prison cells. Al Capone is thought to have killed over 100 people AFTER his imprisonment. Prison does not stop killers from killing. Only one thing does > execution.

 

If you think prisons dont ensure internal security of inmates, then your problem isnt with prisons as an institution, its with the internal security which can easily be enhanced.

Again, all the more reason to increase prison security, not executions.

 

Prisons cannot stop killing. Although there may be some evidencethat execution is a deterrent to crime, I don't have it handy at this moment. Maybe later I'll research it. For now, that execution is a deterrence to killing is my opinion, but there really is no evidence that it is not a deterrence.

Justice for the victim is provided by giving the killer a punishment equally as bad as what he/she bestowed upon the victim. In most cases it isn't full justice because with the watered down, generally relatively painfree method of lethal injection, the killer gets off with less of a hardship than what he did to his victim. The punishment should fit the crime, and be at least as tough.

 

This links give evidence as to how capital punishment DOES NOT deter crime, let alone murder:
http://www.enotes.com/does-capital-article
http://debatepedia.idebate.org/en/index.php/Argument:Capital_punishment_does_not_deter_crime
http://www.nodeathpenaltywi.org/PDF/Deterrence Fact Sheet 9 20 06.pdf
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~chance/teaching_aids/books_articles/JLpaper.pdf
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-about-deterrence-and-death-penalty
http://blog.amnestyusa.org/deathpen...sensus-that-the-death-penalty-does-not-deter/
http://www.ncadp.org/index.cfm?content=5

 

When you or the prisons can come up with some ideas of how to stop murder from prison inmates, THEN you or the prison officials can justifiably say that inmates won't continue to kill. Until then, in order to protect the public, murderers need to be executed, and the sooner the better - assuming their trial was fair, and there was absolute convincing evidence of their guilt (video of the crime, repetitive DNA, etc).