Debunking the lie that Trump made fun of a handlicapped reporter.

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  1. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He like to mock people. Like a child likes to mock people. We agree on that.

    It appears to me that in that comment with the gestures he made...that he WAS MOCKING THE disability of the reporter.

    I have no idea of why you are stunned. The guy has shown himself to be a petty, angry, vindictive individual...and the mocking seems to be the kind of thing he normally would do.

    He clearly said, "You should see this guy...."...and then started the hand and arm flapping.


    I agree. In a grammar school...you would see that kind of thing as a common place event.

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    I doubt his motives could be thoroughly proven in either direction, Sanskrit.

    But...for his loyal sycophants...their defense has to seem sensible rather than robotic.
     
  2. Elcarsh

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    "The muslims"? So it's all of them, then?

    I assume you have evidence of this. Let's see it.
     
  3. CrankyPant

    CrankyPant New Member

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    In your dreams.
    Trump lies. The video doesn't .
    Donald Trump is an absolutely disgusting excuse for a man.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hEQKqFgfAg&t=153s
     
  4. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is more of Trump being a bully.

    [video=youtube;5S-6IV364Wg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S-6IV364Wg[/video]
     
  5. CrankyPant

    CrankyPant New Member

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    Donald Trump: “Hey, I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering. So something’s going on. We’ve got to find out what it is.”

    The mayor and police chief of Jersey City said it never happened. And none of the local news stations aired the footage that Trump claims to have seen with his own eyes.
    This was xenophobia and hatemongering, based on an absolute lie. That's Trump.
     
  6. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    And I'm amazed that Trump's defenders continue to deflect like this. Trump said there were thousands of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey on 9/11. There were not. He lied, and he continued to lie. Some of his defenders tried changing the subject to the notion that some Muslims somewhere celebrated. Literally no one denies that. It is a dodge and a straw man.
     
  7. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    And even afterward Trump claimed that such footage exists, but that he just couldn't understand why it wasn't on the internet anymore. The man is as desperate as he is petty.
     
  8. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Check all posts and show where I stated ALL. Take all the time you need.

    Does Dan Rather carry weight with you?

    [video=youtube;9_TwEaF5Jh0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_TwEaF5Jh0[/video]

    Since I suspect you need more Democrats to make my case, try this well known Democrat reporter.

    [video=youtube;W5BtQgTGOI4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BtQgTGOI4[/video]
     
  9. Elcarsh

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    So, none, then? You made a claim, and decided to not prove it.

    That's all I wanted to know. Trump said something that wasn't true, and you act as though it was.
     
  10. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is a powerful urge for Democrats to defend Muslims. Why is that?

    We have much more evidence of them celebrating 911 than Obama has of Russian hacking.

    We have the evidence on Muslims. Where is this evidence that Putin wanted to elect Trump? Got any video?

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    Apparently you can't understand video.
     
  11. Docbroke

    Docbroke Active Member Past Donor

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    They need to get busy debunking that trump said Mexico will build the wall too.....
     
  12. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have a video proving Trump said that?

    At least you admit Muslims did what Trump said.

    Maybe Anderson Cooper is more compelling.

    [video=youtube;W5BtQgTGOI4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BtQgTGOI4[/video]
     
  13. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So much of what Obama said has been debunked, we will wait to see if Trump is wrong on the wall.
     
  14. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Here is the direct quote: "And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering."

    Again, you are talking about the straw man -- the desperate attempts by his fans to rewrite what he said, as so often happens. What Trump said was a lie.

    Maybe Anderson Cooper is more compelling.

    [video=youtube;W5BtQgTGOI4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BtQgTGOI4[/video][/QUOTE]The video here does not come close to Trump's claim. I covered this video at the time when it was offered as "proof."
     
  15. Lesh

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    Trump SAID he saw them celebrating in Jersey.

    That's a LIE. Stop pretending it isn't
     
  16. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    There is a powerful urge for Trump supporters to change the subject. Why is that? I'm not a Democrat and the only thing I'm defending Muslims against is the lie that thousands of NJ Muslims were celebrating in the streets on 9/11.

    Changing the subject yet a second time.

    There is no video supporting Trump's claim that there were thousands of NJ Muslims celebrating in the streets on 9/11. None. I've asked for it continually. No Trump supporter has been able to find such footage. Trump can't find such footage, even though he says it was all over the news at the time.

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    Also, the video shows TWO Muslims celebrating in the streets, not thousands. But hey, Trump math.
     
  17. Kode

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    Yeah right anyone can see what he did. It's disgraceful to try to excuse it and make i ok.
     
  18. kgeiger002

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    It does appear quite obvious how frightened people on the left are of Trump. Is there enough "safe spaces" for all the pajama groups at this point? Well hopefully, there's still enough tissues to go around.
     
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    Wrong, he is on video using the same exact gesture to mock Ted Cruz, an Army general, and others over the years. It's his standard "backpedaling/waffling" mocking pose. Moreover, the reporter in question doesn't even have a shaky arm or hand. This is why media used the still pictures to create the lie as opposed to video, which would instantly reveal the lie. A bright 12 year old could figure this out. The only robots are leftists such as youself who adhere to the lie in the face of all the documentary evidence against it.

    It doesn't surprise me at all either, that the usual dishonest suspects on this board are trying to make this into a debate over how many muslims celebrated 9/11 and how many did not. Transparent and not the topic of this thread.
     
  20. Robert

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    Since you equate being wrong with lying, I will show proof that Obama is busted telling 129 lies.

    While you seem upset with Trump, are you more upset by the Obama lies?

    Tell you what. I accept Trump lied. Will you accept Obama lied?
    http://www.tampabay.com/projects/2017/politifact/obameter/home/
     
  21. Robert

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    Frankly I agree.

    Now will you also agree that Obama lied at least 129 times?

    A post or two back, I posted 129 of Obama's lies.

    But for you, Here they are again.

    http://www.tampabay.com/projects/2017/politifact/obameter/home/
     
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    Unable to defend Trump's lie, you change the subject for a third time.
     
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    No one said they wanted to 'torture like the NAZIs" and what does that have to do with the title of the thread? Trolling again I see.
     
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    Of course he was making fun of the reporter. He tends to mouth off a lot....the man is very uncouth and has said degrading things about many people. You don't have to be anti Trump to see him for what he is.

    It worries me that he comes across as so childish at times. He was so offended the SNL skits, and his response to Meryl Streep's pathetic awards speech wasn't really appropriate either.
    Seems like the president elect should be able to handle these minor situations with a bit more grace and maturity.

    Still ...Id rather have him in office than Hitlary.
     
  25. tomfoo13ry

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    This is the lamest "debunking" I've ever seen. You claim that it is a "common gesture" that he does "ALL THE TIME," but the video you provide as evidence shows only two instances (which they replayed over and over again) other than the one where he mocked the handicapped guy, and in those other two he did not make the gesture with the curled hand similar to the disability that the reporter had...he only did that when he mocked the handicapped guy.
     

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