Definitive proof that there was no fraud

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  1. CenterField

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    https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-suffered-crushing-down-ballot-151200736.html

    How Democrats Suffered Crushing Down-Ballot Losses Across America

    Just look at how the Dems were DECIMATED EVERYWHERE! I was unaware of this slaughter in down ballot races. I knew about the Dems not capturing the Senate and losing seats in the House but I was unaware of all these state legislatures that the Dems desperately tried to get, and how their results across the board all over the nation were so poor and much worse than in 2018.

    If the widespread fraud the Trump campaign keeps claiming (with not an ounce of proof) were real, this decimation wouldn't have happened.

    What did happen is that suburban Americans were sick and tired of Trump and voted to kick him out, but actually voted even MORE for the rest of the GOP than in 2018.

    No fraud.

    And don't even start to claim that fake ballots only had the presidential race. Makes no sense. A presidency without the Senate is a handicapped presidency. It would take all of 3 seconds to also check the senatorial box if the intention was to defraud the elections.

    Another lesson here: no mandate for progressive policies. The American voters are not interested in what the far left is offering.
     
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    Dirty Donald by far the worst president in my 80 year life.
     
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    Elites may not have condoned general election theft, only the defeat of Trump, who they considered a loose cannon, far more dangerous than a typical Republican.
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it wasn't. Puzzling? Yes, because Trump got us to unusual times and changed election dynamics. Stolen? Absolutely not. He lost because he brought it on himself. Americans delivered a clear message: we are not for far left policies so we delivered to the GOP most of the down ballot races. But we don't want that clown, Donald Trump. At least, 80 million of us don't, and we're more numerous than the 74 million who do. Democracy is a bitch, huh? Sometimes you don't like the result, but you gotta respect it.
     
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    Switch about 110,000 votes in PA, WI, and AZ and Trump would be the winner. You just dismiss allegations of fraud.
     
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    2016 Switch about 77,000 votes in PA, WI, and MI and Hillary would be the winner. You just dismiss allegations of fraud.

    Oh wait that was a landslide
     
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    Actually, switch just 22,000 votes in Wisconsin, Arizona, and Georgia and Trump would be the winner (44,000 difference in these 3 states but only half of these needed to be switched because if you switch, that vote counts for you and stops counting for your opponent). That would result in a 269-269 tie and the House would solve it, one vote per state delegation, and the GOP has more.

    So what?

    Yes, it was narrow, but Biden won.

    I dismiss allegations of fraud because there was no fraud. There was a narrow win by Biden, and a legitimate one.

    Anyway, I've had very little patience for posters like you. Good bye. Have a nice life.
     
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    I don't know. He's not my favorite person, but in that time three different men started the Korean, Vietnam and Iraq wars. Pointless wars that killed millions of people. They have to be worse, historically.
     
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    Not according to the distribution of votes.

    For example,
    2,868,676 more votes were cast for Democrats in 2016, (6 million more today
    9,710,275 more votes were cast for democrats in the house in 2018,
    and 17,537,638 more votes were cast for democrats in the senate in 2018, (waiting for final count on 2020 )
    therefore, the inescapable conclusion is that the vast majority of the electorate
    would prefer what dems are selling over what repubs are selling, regardless of how the electoral college structurally favors republicans, and how house district gerrymandering is rigged by republicans in favor of republicans and how the
    Senate is structurally favors republicans.

    I'm willing to bet in all elections, President, House, and Senate, far more votes were cast for democrats than for republicans, noting WHY the actual house and senate results, for above stated reasons, DO NOT REFLECT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

    NO, they sure as hell do want what dems are selling, it's just that repubs have gerrymandered districts and the senate favors states over people, notiing that the founding fathers never imagined a state with 40,000,000 people would get 2 senators, and two Dakotas, with about as many people as there are in San Diego, get 4.
     
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    So ridiculous! If Biden won it’s only because of corporate media lies and corporate contributions.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/21/trump-cash-woes-430691
     
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    National security? Trump defeated some bad guys while avoiding new wars. Was that so bad?
     
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    Who fact checks the fact checkers?
     
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    Rorshach
     
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    Can you acknowledge that social media and the corporate media in general have far more power to broadcast lies?
     
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    Yes - all CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, OANN etc

    I don't take anything I hear from the media at face value
     
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    Those 3 seconds add up to a lot of time when you are looking hundreds of thousands of votes.

    They all had to be done by hand to cover up the fraud.
     
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    Could you detail these alleged allegations?
     
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    Maybe the people want what the Democratic Party as a whole is selling... but what I said is that the people don't want what the FAR LEFT is selling. These are two different concepts.
     
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    Can you also acknowledge that social media/corporate media with a few exceptions (Limbaugh, Hannity, and some others) are liberal/left?
     
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