Dem candidates embrace gun control en masse in campaign for House takeover

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  1. Toefoot

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    That shift is being reflected in activity on the campaign trail, with more Democrats being more vocal on gun control and their advocacy of proposals such as background checks.

    There has been a spike in spending on ads by Democrats that focus on gun control across gubernatorial, Senate and House races, according to USA Today. In 2014, there were 558 pro-gun control spots, mostly from Democrats. In 2018, that number had rocketed to 18,416, in comparison to 8,897 anti-gun control spots by mostly Republicans.

    In the House races, pro-gun control ads represented about 67 percent of those with explicit messages on guns, compared to just six percent in 2014.

    Link: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...n-control-in-campaign-for-house-takeover.html

    The drum beat is growing louder and the threats against 2A more focused. This is a State fight and is a local issue regardless of what state you live in. Get involved, stay proactive and lets kick the progs in the nuts. Politically speaking.

    I would also like to mention to our foreign trailer trash friends, please keep up the down talking about how uncivilized and barbaric us yanks are, it has had a great effect with our own supreme court in recent rulings going pro 2A.

    I love the sport, I was taught by my father and grandfather and in return taught my wife, son and daughter. These outings with the family help secure a bond, promote a positive culture and sustain tradition that go back generations, it shaped our family and continues to do so.

    Fight it with everything you got at the local level, show no mercy because we know progs will not stop with one drink from the well, they want to own and regulate the well until the citizens needs to ask for permission to drink from it.

    Good luck to my fellow sportsmen and women during this next election cycle, Keep up the good fight and let liberty ring loud and true.
     
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    Saw this on FOX along with Gingrich’s discussion about the Dems now openly embracing socialism. Good news. I hope they run Hillary again in 2020.
     
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    Gun-control has never been a winning issue for Democrats in the past. That may be changing. Many Democrats feel less of a need to compromise and gun apologists are often on the defense:

    "Democrats have long tried to counter such messaging and attacks from the National Rifle Association by showing an affinity for hunters and expressing support for Second Amendment rights. In 2004, for example, John Kerry, appearing in camouflage, took his presidential campaign to a duck blind. And President Obama, in an appeal to the heartland in 2008, supported a Supreme Court decision overturning a ban on guns in Washington, D.C....

    "Something 'flipped,' at least for some politicians, after former Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., lost her seat in 2016 following her vote against an expansion of background checks....

    " 'All of a sudden they were like, "Oh, being against some of these commonsense reforms can actually hurt me and being for them can be good," ' Erickson Hatalsky said....

    " 'Republicans are on defense on guns in most of the House races, because the suburban women who will decide those elections strongly support commonsense gun-safety laws,' Erickson Hatalsky said. 'The terrain is different in the Senate, given the states that are up, and both parties may worry they have something to lose from leaning in on guns in the key Senate races.'....

    "Rather than talking about 'gun control,' James said most candidates’ messages use other terms. They’re talking about gun safety, strengthening gun laws, making communities safer and standing up to the gun lobby. 'Gun control,' she said, is a term that’s been co-opted by the gun lobby and 'weaponized' against candidates who use it.

    “ 'Candidates have found a new way to talk to voters about the policies that they know voters support without suggesting that they oppose the Second Amendment or the right of responsible gun owners to bear arms,' she said."
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...g-airwaves-pointed-gun-control-ads/948376002/
     
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    I am all for it being a part of their platform. Those that cling to their religion, guns, capitalism, a better economy and vote for people like Trump done belong in modern society; it’s a good simple slogan...I won’t charge them if they use it.
     
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    The second amendment has nothing to do with relation to matters pertaining to hunting. Trying to earn the sportsman vote with hollow platitudes and lip service means nothing. Those who support greater firearm-related restrictions are ignorant of how useless and unenforceable they truly are.
     
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    Gun safety advocates don't even feel the need to do that now. They are also becoming less afraid to call out the gun lobby on its BS. From a recent protest outside of NRA headquarters:

    "United we will overcome a Russian-funded NRA that puts profit before lives, forgets the meaning of well-regulated, and most of all threatens our democracy."
     
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    Not completely true... GCA leftist politicians they are opportunistically exploiting useful children who think they are making political impact to be their voice while they hide in the shadows, not unlike many leftist leaders that put innocents in front of their troops as shields and canon fodder. Rather than logic, they are looking to increase the big eye emotion strategy. It’s not sustainable without revealing the actual strategy and funding sources that expose the exploitation strategy for what it is.
     
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    Awesome. The gun ban lobby and its supporters got this overconfident before.... in 1994. They got their collective asses handed to them in the subsequent elections - even the sitting Speaker of the House was ousted - and it took them years to regain any semblance of political capital. Al Gore lost the White House in 2000 pounding the bully pulpit of gun control, as did Hillary in 2016.

    The "blue wave" the dems are so convinced will happen is going to drown them this time.

    Oh, and you're not a "gun safety advocate", Galileo. You're a totalitarian who holds the Constitution in contempt, just like all those others of your ilk, and far more Americans see through you and your gun banning friends than the media is willing to say. Prepare for some catastrophic disappointment come November.
     
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    There is no firearms safety to be had in what is being proposed and called for by these individuals or organizations.
     
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    Will not be infringed is not enough plain language for you? Are you that dense? Your rhetoric about the NRA to make it out to be some kind of Russian monster is amusing but each morning the NRA stands as with thousands of other gun right associations, Clubs and events.

    Emotionally unstable and mentally deficient, better known collectively as Progs are not the ones to look at for leadership or policy. Progressive instinct by nature is a cancer to anything it touches.
     
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    En masse? Must be an upcoming event on the horizon.
     
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    What will happen when Democrats take back the House next month? Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats have plans to make gun safety a priority. They are less afraid of the NRA these days. Many incumbents supported by the NRA have been defeated.

    " 'Candidates have been so afraid in the past, they've thought that supporting gun safety was only a negative in terms of the politics,' said Erickson with Third Way.

    "But in 2018, perhaps because of the the political activity around the Parkland, Fla., school shootings, many candidates campaigned openly on promises to strengthen gun laws."
    https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/6665...-incoming-house-democrats-embrace-gun-control
     
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    Have Pelosi et al counted noses in the Senate?
     
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    Interesting.
    She works at the think tank Third Way and yet she is confusing "gun safety" with gun control. Most people in the major political parties support gun safety.
    Using dead kids to campaign for office! To use the death of rich kids in Florida to talk gun control is wrong on so many levels. If the Democrats really want to make a difference why have they not been addressing the real gun death issues; young black males and suicides? Why? Because that is not where their money comes from.

    Most people are in favor of "gun safety", many are not in favor of gun control. There is a big difference.
     
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    All of which means absolutely nothing, as they do not have control of the senate. The house of representatives alone can do absolutely nothing, meaning any legislative proposals they put forward will be ignored outright, and never even allowed to come up for a vote.
     
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    That'll be a real winner for 2020
     
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    This is what happens when I try and do two things at once.
     
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    It didn't work well for them in Florida.

    DATE: December 10, 2018
    TO: USF & NRA Member and Friends
    FROM: Marion P. Hammer
    USF Executive Director
    NRA Past President
    While Bloomberg's anti-gun groups (Everytown/Moms Demand/Gun Sense) are claiming victory, let’s look at the Florida numbers. NRA/USF walked away the clear winner but you decide.

    HEAD TO HEAD RACES:

    BOTH NRA/USF & GUN SENSE ENDORSED CANDIDATES

    IN STATEWIDE RACES:

    NRA/USF endorsed 2 and 2 won - winning percentage = 100%

    GUN SENSE endorsed 2 and 0 won - winning percentage = 0%

    IN FLORIDA SENATE RACES:

    NRA/USF endorsed 3 and 3 won - winning percentage = 100%

    GUN SENSE endorsed 3 and 0 won - winning percentage = 0%

    IN FLORIDA HOUSE RACES:

    NRA/USF endorsed 16 and 15 won - winning percentage = 94%

    GUN SENSE endorsed 16 and 1 won - winning percentage = 0.06%

    RACES WHERE NRA/USF ENDORSED CANDIDATES

    AND GUN SENSE DID NOT

    IN FLORIDA SENATE RACES:

    NRA/USF endorsed 3 and 3 won - winning percentage = 100%

    IN FLORIDA HOUSE RACES:

    NRA/USF endorsed 14 and 12 won - winning percentage = 86%

    RACES WHERE GUN SENSE ENDORSED CANDIDATES

    AND NRA/USF DID NOT

    IN FLORIDA SENATE RACES:

    GUN SENSE endorsed 9 and 2 won - winning percentage = 22%

    IN FLORIDA HOUSE RACES:

    GUN SENSE endorsed 33 and 6 won - winning percentage = 18.1%

    OVERALL WINNING PERCENTAGES

    NRA/USF Endorsed 39 with 35 wins & 4 losses: OVERALL WINNING PERCENTAGE = 89%

    GUN SENSE Endorsed 62 with 9 wins & 52 losses: OVERALL WINNING PERCENTAGE = 14.5%
     
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