Democrats May Be On The Verge Of Becoming A ‘Permanent Minority’ Party

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  1. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, because Donald "Grab them in the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)" Trump was definitely the moral ground. :roll:
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't smoke so I would turn it down.

    My employer gives us all flu shots at no cost.

    Morally wrong is taking something given away for the sake of getting something free whether you need it or not. Example: Going to a community food bank give away and taking food meant for the truly needy even if you can afford to buy your own. They don't check pay stubs.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it's hysterical that all those women that came out of the wood work saying Trump molested them have all vanished as fast as they appeared....and Trump still won.

    Melania Trump settles defamation lawsuit against Maryland blogger
     
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    OP, do not agree. If left unchecked the fascist dems will take power down the road. Just study the long-term trends, not the last election
     
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    The Republicans lost seats in the House and the Senate and Trump had almost 3,000,000 fewer votes than Clinton.

    Are you sure you righties understand what the American People are actually saying?

    Here's a hint: The party in the White House usually loses big in the mid-term and they're is a tremendous anti-incumbent sentiment flowing through the country. I doubt that the Republicans will lose the Senate but the Democrats only need to pick up about 25 seats or so in the House for it to switch hands and I guarantee you that there are several items on the upcoming list of investigatory committee fodder.

    However, I don't think that "give them enough rope to hang themselves" is a viable political strategy. Seems a bit complacent.

    I'd like to see the Democrats move a bit to the left, reestablish their roots and switch to a small-business/middle-class worker platform. I've said for years that we also need a change in leadership. The Boomers' political power is fading, Trump may actually be the last Boomer president, and America is moving towards a socially liberal/fiscally conservative future. Whatever party fails to see this is setting themselves up for disaster. So which party will go kicking and screaming towards this inevitable shift?

    The Republican voter suppression efforts should have a bit less of an impact unless they ramp them up to a new level. Of course, there is still Russia's intense interest in supporting Trump through propaganda.

    With the way Donald Trump's Administration is going, things are going to be pretty sour in a year or two. Naturally, he'll probably invade some country somewhere to prop up his numbers. He also better hope that the job numbers keep ticking up. If the bottom falls out of the economy again, it could be a LONG time before another Republican party member is entrusted with the keys to the White House and rightly so.

    So let's wait until then to see what the American People think before sticking a fork in the Democratic Party.

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    Have you seen the whining from the Trump Administration lately?
     
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    Moving to the left cost you with middle class voters. Pushing left will get you this...
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    I completely agree... well said. While the Progs control the media and are making a lot of antiTrump noise, the rest of America has their fingers in their ears and are humming out the lies. The harder the Progs try, the more annoying they become. Count in McCain and stretch-face.


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    If you're a progressive in the United States and are unhappy with the way the Democratic Party has crushed any attempt to introduce progressive ideas and policies to their campaigns then you might actually just want to consider joining another party or organisation. The organisations I would recommend are the Socialist Alternative and the International Socialist Organisation. The Green Party is also an acceptable alternative to the Democratic Party. I think that the Sanders campaign has demonstrated that it is impossible to reform the Dems but it has also shown that there are tens of millions of Americans who want change. It should be fairly easy to activate these people, especially by using transformative organizing which is a very effective and long-term oriented method.
     
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    While I would like for that to be the case because I personally feel Conservatism is better for the nation overall than Liberalism, I wouldn't start getting too excited just yet.

    Two things. For one Trump has the ability to royally screw this up. Like it or not in the eyes of A LOT of Liberals Trump is the epitome of what they see as the stereotypical Republican "enemy". It's like the guy was created in a factory in the eyes of many. Supposedly racist, doesn't care about the environment, doesn't care about the poor, misogynist, war monger, etc. In the eyes of many all of those things I just listed are "Republican" traits and Trump is a Republican.

    So even though he is considered a RINO by many in the Republican Party in the eyes of the Democrats and Liberals he is the living breathing epitome of what they hate about Republicans. So if he fails then it will be seen as a Republican failure, not just a Trump failure.

    Two whether we like it or not Progressives are a huge chunk of the nation and they don't seem to be getting any smaller. Quite the opposite. This up and coming generation is very different than the generations of the past. There are A LOT, and I mean A LOT of millennial kids out there who consider themselves Progressive Liberals. The fact that a guy like Bernie Sanders even got as far as he did scared me but just proves my point. It wasn't older Democrats that were behind that guy it was an army of college aged Liberal kids who poured their support into him. College aged Liberal kids who will grow up to be adults and have to run this country when we retire and/or die off.

    I read from a lot of sources about how what we are seeing today may very well be the last gasp of the "older" Conservative generation who basically just came out swinging with their dying breath. Which makes me nervous as I see this up and coming generation of kids and realize that they very well might be right. From what I'm seeing there are a lot more Liberal college aged kids than Conservative ones and I don't know if there will be enough Conservatives left in the coming decades to electorally combat the army of Liberal kids coming of age.

    But then again I also didn't think Trump had a chance in hell at ever becoming President. So hopefully I am wrong again.
     
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    I'm talking entire party, but yeah....that one conversation with Stern didn't play well for him. I just wonder who hasn't engaged in talk like that at some point, but it is what it is. But liberals are definitely giving up any ability to shame anyone else when their behavior and attitude is on such full display for such a long period of time. The moral high ground was given up for sure.
     

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