DeSantis signs bill limiting tenure at Florida public universities:Checking “intellectual orthodoxy"

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  1. Zorro

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    CULTURAL COUNTERREVOLUTION: DeSantis signs bill limiting tenure at Florida public universities: He takes aim at faculty, saying they develop an “intellectual orthodoxy” if left unchecked.

    He's right.

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    "Gov. Ron DeSantis on Tuesday signed a bill" passed by "the legislation" that works "to prevent educators" from force feeding Fl students "their political views in the classroom."

    "DeSantis criticized “lifetime appointments” for university professors."
    "Every five years tenured faculty would be required to go before their university’s board of trustees, which could part ways with them."

    Tenure is very difficult for conservatives to obtain.

    They want the State University system to move off political indoctrination and back to job skills, learning skills, basic academics and reasoning. They've had enough of the extremists professors who demand regurgitation by students in order to get a decent grade.

    Ending Accreditation Monopoly:
    Perfectly fair:
    And THAT'S how it works in a Constitutional Liberal Democracy.
     
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    The irony of calling this a “counterrevolution” when this is exactly what authoritarian regimes do. They silence anyone they disagree with. Especially academia because they are the people who know how to call a leader out on BS.
     
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    It is a drastic step. But wokeness is poison that must be sucked out and spit away.
     
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    Isn’t it funny seeing progressives defending a huge carve out and tax break given to a large multinational corporation?
     
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    Advocating for the firing of people who don’t share your political opinion is literally what the communists and Nazis did. What a shame it is that authoritarians believe they alone must be right. How insecure they must be.
     
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    Your side has already done it in the Universities. Drastic times call for drastic measures.
     
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    My side? Dude I study colonialism. I had to fight tooth and nail just to be taken seriously. Conservative academics are all just about “yeah quantitative methodology for the win!!!”. My research is all qualitative.

    What did you think academia was just “everyone is a liberal”, and decide to ignore the diversity within departments?
     
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    I surely do. But then again, I'm a quantatative kind of guy and read the polling data.
     
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    The irony of a “quantitative kind of guy” not realizing that you can’t think of the world in binary terms but trying to do it anyways.
     
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    So basically he wants people to get fired for not sharing his viewpoint.
     
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    Yup. He is cleansing the Augian stables.
     
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    Let’s not stop there. Let’s get rid of anyone who doesn’t think the same. I mean…we can’t have a world with different viewpoints. Amiright?!
     
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    For being politically opposed. Why should conservatives trust him when they might oppose him?
     
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    Sure we can. But we have to get rid of the wokesters.
     
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    Totally. Let’s get it so all that’s left are sheep. Perfect utopia. Amiright?!
     
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    In your world there are only the woke and the sheep?
     
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    In my world I prefer not silencing people who have different viewpoints than me.
     
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    Really? You just described Twitter, Google, CNN, and many others.
     
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    You forgot the tyrannical Politicalforum.com! How could you have left them out?
     
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    I have 58 warnings and I'm not trying to get the 59th any time soon.
     
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    There are a few thin skinned people here who seem to report everything I do.
     
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    Me, I don't want to scrimp and save and take out a second mortgage to send my daughter to college and have her come home with a scraggly beard due to testosterone injections suggested by a wokester.
     
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    LOL! If he wants to essentially get rid of tenure, he will have to be prepared for ANY serious academic not touching Florida State Universities with a 10 foot pole. Tenure is the ONE thing that makes it attractive for academics to go through the long and risky process of years of low-payed PhD and postdoc positions before they are eligible for a tenure track position. Without tenure, a university career will not be attractive at all.
     
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    Yes, he most certainly is correct on that.

     

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