Desperately seeking closure with Liz Cheney

Indeed. Failure to pay homage to Palm Beach Jesus is lying about democracy. Lulz.

 

You use words that you don't know the definition of.

 

She could do us all a favor and resign now!

 

So you're saying at some point (and you don't bother to mention when) she became more like Trump. Got it! I guess in the new Republican Party, Trump is the only one who can be trumpian.

 

And those 'priorities' are the antithesis to any representative(including a Democratic representative.) The equivalent would be if a Democrat wanted to sit on a committee on inflation, and chose to make that their top priority instead of voting on any legislative agenda. From a Political Science prospective(not the knee jerk excuses prospective for her lobsided loss), she lost because it became abundantly clear to everyone, including me a PA resident that she was out for herself and for her 'glory'(see: Her comparison to Abraham Lincoln.)

Trump said and did a lot of things, but comparing himself vainly to another politician he did not(to my knowledge anyway). That Liberals support the vanity and ego of Liz Cheney shows how much the party has lost its way.

 

That's a question for her constituents that just resoundingly rejected her. A near 40 point loss even after the big beg for crossover Democrats is a very convincing rejection of her as representative.

 

If Democrats like her as representative, she's available. You're welcome.

 

That's an interesting comment. An amazing young person from Vietnam who I had the privilege of sponsoring is a proud socialist/communist and this person's views toward hard work, merit reward, self sacrifice, self sufficiently, honestly, integrity frugality, match middle American family values as well as anyone's.

I don't know just what the hell the extreme Leftists are in America, but their rights violating conduct would likely get them a judicially administered caning in the Socialist Republic of Vietnam.

 

Our world is a wonderful thing - there is room for each of us to see things from a different angle and with a different perspective. It would be refreshing to read that perspective without the obligatory 'Liberals bad' addendum.

 

Why not, after all conservatives are the bane of all ill due to the existence of one Donald Trump?

 

Conservatives have allowed Trump and other fascists to take over their party. And I believe they haven't put up enough of a fight to recover it. My sympathies have been with them, but I think this is when they need to step up and be clear about their opposition to fascism. Even more than Democrats. We're not going to recover your party for you. You're going to need to do it yourselves.

 

Folks think a fascist (Liz Cheney) is conservative.

 

You are confused as to what totalitarian means. Totalitarian means fascist or communist, for examples.

A totalitarian is someone in a restrictive government which doesn't allow opinions and thoughts which are contrary to their own.
Trump allowed the Floyd riots. Trump allowed Charlottesville. As I've mentioned, a totalitarian wouldn't allow something which is against their beliefs and thoughts.

Joe Biden is totalitarian. Social media platforms are authoritarian. Liz Cheney is totalitarian. Trump is neither totalitarian or authoritarian.

 

Too bad the communist party line doesn't mirror the line of the proletariat.

 

I didn't say Trump is a competent fascist. He's as incompetent as he has always been in everything he does.

 

Is that how you feel? I'm sorry if you do.

Conservatives and Liberals have valid views. Each equally. We don't need to agree to respect each other. When DT entered the GOP, he created his own crew of followers. They support and defend him no matter what he does or says. Its difficult for Liberals to understand.

 

It's my interpretation of the Democratic view of the world. At least as it is today. Trump is evil, therefore they're all evil. There's a few extremist nuts out there, that must mean there's a bunch of extremist nuts.

To me, the greatest evil is when a representative can give a middle finger to her voters, and in word/action not care about her job as an elected official and then try to actually run for the office lol. Her historic defeat was due to that sheer contempt, contempt that the Framers would've never dreamed of entering politics.

Now after being so thoroughly rejected by people in her own state, she thinks that the entire nation will swallow that drivel? Let's put this in context, one of the knocks in the 2016 primaries against Senator Rubio of Florida was missing a few votes as a junior senator, and that's nothing compared to extoling oneself as a 'figure of democracy'.

Luckily, for the good of the nation seeking earnest representation it's unlikely she'll win a federal election ever again. My suggestion to her would be to find new employment in the private sector.

 

Not being a competent fascist as you refer (incorrectly) to Trump makes Trump not a fascist. Figure it out, just once.

And yeah, we know you hate Trump.

 

I'm a conservative, and I definitely say do things right. I also recognize that there are many opinions of what's right, and that requires qualifiers- and the fundamental factors are hardly vague, and vary obvious to any honest person.

Do the job.you were hired to do.
Keep your word.
Do it honestly- don't lie to your citizens, don't do things you have to hide from them.
Respect the fundamental values- freedom, respect, responsibility, civility, accountability.

What your choices are as a politician are what we vote on. But the qualifications and your conduct as an honorable and competent person are primary duties that every politician owes to the country.
There is no compromise- you either have the character and honor the primary values, or you are not qualified to hold office. Same rules for all, any party, any office.

 

Saying 'do right things' is different than saying 'do the right thing because I only allow thoughts and actions which agree with my ideology' like Liz Cheney, for example.

 

Liz Cheney shot herself down. I think wise people recognize that as a personal fault, not necessarily one created by politics- and a good indication that person shouldn't be in politics.
Apparently, the people have recognized that.

 

Me? Hate a fascist who separated children from their parents, whose incompetence lead to the death of over a million Americans due to Covid, who attempted (and failed) to perpetuate himself in power by staging an insurrection, who sexually abused over a dozen women, who beat his wife, who morally equates pro-nazi fascists to anti-fascists, who gassed peaceful protesters for a photo-op holding a Bible upside-down, whose ONLY legislative accomplishment when in power was to increase welfare for his fellow billionaires, who attempted to destroy NATO, who palled around and praised dictators while attacking our allies, who attempted to extort the leader of a foreign country for political gain, who won an election after his campaign colluded with Russia and then obstructed the investigation, who used the presidency for personal profit, who stole some of our government's most closely guarded secrets for motives yet to be determined....?

You know... when Bush was President, Republicans used this same defense mechanism... and I would go on and on about how I actually liked the guy, but hated his policies. In the case of Trump.. how can any moderately moral individual NOT hate him?

 

I had a very moral friend for 50 years who intensely hated Trump. She hated his choice in ties, his choice in women, his self-confidence, his outspoken, unapologetic manner, his willingness to call things as he saw them and let the chips fall where they may. That was her total motivation- and yet she was otherwise a very strong, very wise and independent person, one whose opinions I normally valued. Everyone has their weaknesses; she couldn't separate her personal prejudice from the performance, so she knocked everything about him. There was no sense explaining that too her, she wasn't interested at looking at the larger picture or considering the validity of her position.
Sound familiar? It should.

 

Yeah. Some women have a particular sense for detecting a sexual predator. Though, of course, Trump beating and raping his first wife has been known publicly since she first denounced it to authorities.

 

I think the voters of WY have closure