DHS nominee under investigation for allegedly helping Hillary Clinton's brother

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  1. Iron River

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    DHS nominee under investigation for allegedly helping Hillary Clinton's brother



    : http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...o-help-hillary-clinton-brother/#ixzz2ZxS01WAG

    Alejandro Mayorkas, director of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, was named by Homeland Security's Inspector General's Office as a target in an investigation involving the foreign investor program run by USCIS, according to an email sent to lawmakers late Monday.


    The investigation was opened in September 2012 following a referral from an FBI counterintelligence analyst. The probe was first reported by The Associated Press.

    The investigation into Mayorkas is based on allegations he helped secure U.S. visas for Chinese businessmen after they had been denied by his own agency’s officials. The visas had been sought by Gulf Coast Funds Management, a financing company headed by then-Secretary of State Clinton’s brother Anthony Rodham, according to an aide to GOP Sen. Charles Grassley, who had received internal USCIS emails about the matter from a department whistle blower.


    The program, known as EB-5, allows foreigners to get visas if they invest $500,000 to $1 million in projects or businesses that create jobs for U.S. citizens. The amount of the investment required depends on the type of project. Investors who are approved for the program can become legal permanent residents after two years and can later be eligible to become citizens.



    Great program for the Rodham klan. Bring criminals in from China to infiltrate our infrastructure and technology companies and then making them citizens so that they can bring more of their families in too.

    This Mayorkas guy must be a Hillary Klan insider: Another of Hillary Clinton's brothers, Hugh Rodham, had been hired by the donor to lobby for the commutation. Mayorkas told lawmakers during his 2009 confirmation hearing that "it was a mistake" to talk to the White House about the request.


    According to an undated, unclassified State Department report about the program obtained by the AP, the U.S. Consulate in Guangzhou, China, processed more investor visas in the 2011 fiscal year than any other consulate or embassy.
     
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    I'm confused. This official helped some Chinese people follow an existing law and people want him prosecuted? I mean I think the law is stupid and needs changed, but we don't prosecute people for taking advantage of legal loopholes, no matter how stupid the loopholes are.
     
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    From the OP:
    The investigation into Mayorkas is based on allegations he helped secure U.S. visas for Chinese businessmen after they had been denied by his own agency’s officials. The visas had been sought by Gulf Coast Funds Management, a financing company headed by then-Secretary of State Clinton’s brother Anthony Rodham

    Its not a loophole, its a crime.
     
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    It is a loophole . They were denied so they tried to take advantage of this loophole about investments . Or do you claim that once denied a visa you are never allowed to apply again? LOL
     
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    Two paragraphs that were oddly left out of the quoted article in the OP, which is strange because they go right in the middle of the portion of the article quoted. Maybe a glitch in copying and pasting?

    According to an email sent to lawmakers Monday, the IG's office said, "At this point in our investigation, we do not have any findings of criminal misconduct." The email did not specify any criminal allegations it might be investigating.

    White House press secretary Jay Carney referred questions to the inspector general's office, which said that the probe is in its preliminary stage and that it doesn't comment on the specifics of investigations.



    Kind of changes the context of the article, doesn't it? While I loathe criminal behavior, it would seem at this point there was none.
     
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    No, Im saying Hillary used her position in government as Secretary of State to hook her brother up, after his chinese pals were properly denied.
     
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    Man, people have been taking advantage of knowing someone in power for as long as people have been alive. That in itself is not criminal. There is a law in place that allows foreigners to invest in US businesses and receive a visa. Taking advantage of that law is not criminal..

    NOTHING will come of this, because it is nothing more than another case of fauxrage from those who dislike Democrats.
     
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    No, it's more crony corruption at the hands of Democrats.
     
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    It's cronyism, I'll give you that. Now do you concede that this has NO doubt happened in EVERY administration of EVERY government EVER?x
     
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    The man had been rejected twice for not being qualified for the EB-5 program. If he had been rejected for some other program and then came up with $500k+ to get a visa that would be even worse.

    Someone needs to, and I suspect that they will, look at this company that the Rodham boy is running. All he does is help people get into this country if they invest $500K+in projects that he has part of?? Good gig if you have a sister in government.
     
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    May be true, but this official did nothing wrong if he helped facilitate the process. Now if he went beyond that and discovered that things weren't kosher or something, that is a different story. But that isn't what we've seen so far. All we've seen is that he helped facilitate the process, which is NOT illegal.
     
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    And the person that sent to e-mail thinks that all is above board? Why blow the whistle on this guy if he is just doing his job for the American people??? Let's see what happens now that the Senate has this information. Maybe they will give BH Obama another far left ally of the Clintons because he has an Arab looking last name.
     
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    People report things all the time, for a variety of reasons. The mere reporting of it doesn't mean a crime was committed.
     
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    So you agree that this guy did a good job when he intervened in a case, at the request of one of the Rodham brothers, after the person in question had been rejected twice as not being qualifying for the EB-5 program that would have meat at least $500K to add to the Radham's investment scams?

    If the investor is giving your investment company $500K so that he can become an American citizen he isn't very likely to (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about losing the whole investment is he?????????

    About as good a scam as I have ever heard of.
     
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    Whether it is a scam or not is another matter entirely. Whether the guy should have been given a visa or not is another matter entirely. Simply following the law is NOT illegal.
     
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    You right wingers pick and choose your morality and outrage and would have played damage control if this had happened under Bush's administration or a GOP member.

    Your inability to be consistent is why no one takes your party seriously anymore. Ya'll suck.
     
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    This thread is about this administration, if you wish to discuss other administrations, feel free to open a thread about it...
     
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    No, this thread is about whining about something this administration did that every administration does and isn't even a crime.

    But hey, thank you for admitting that you have NO desire to admit that everyone does what you are NOW whining about LOL
     
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    Your intention would appear to be to derail the conversation at hand, nothing more...

    There was an investigation into this character, but seeing how miserable the FBI did with the Boston Marathon Bombers, I'm not sure how much stock we can put in them under this president, this AG, and the fools that surround them...
     
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    My intent is not to derail the thread, rather it is to make fun of it. You anti Obama guys long ago became the little boy who called wolf. You scream wolf so often that even on the rare occasion when you actually have something, everyone is thinking "oh there's the little boy calling wolf again" and ignoring you.

    It
     
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    Anti-Obama guys like me had eight years of watching your side cry wolf, perhaps its just a learned reaction, or perhaps the system is really that corrupt. Either way, this is a here and now issue, and we can't fix the system if we keep giving one side a pass, that means we should all work towards ending the corruption, and this case seems a great place to start... :)
     
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    Psst just so you know, I never voted for Obama and I do not support him or his beliefs.


    However, I DO believe in HONESTY, even in regards to people with whom I disagree.

    There was nothing illegal done here. NOTHING.
     
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    Give me an example of a national Republican leader that has been involved in this kind of activity with no criticism form the right? Or, just tell us the case that you have in mind??

    Let me remind you that dems can do whatever they want and the MSM has nothing to say unless it's an excuse for whatever it is.

    How do you know that nothing illegal happened before there is an investigation by people who care??
     
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    Now this just getting silly . YOu damn well know that both sides are notorious for ignoring the wrong doing of "their own"

    Even when that wrong doing isn't really wrong doing LOL
     

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