Did Angus T. Jones Fall Prey To The Culture Of Smut?

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  1. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    [video=youtube_share;IxV4DYSQc5s]http://youtu.be/IxV4DYSQc5s[/video]

    Many of you have seen these clips of now 19 year old Angus T. Jones expressing strong regret about being part of the show "Two and a half men". My first memory of Angus on film was in the movie "The Rookie" with Dennis Quaid. He was a cute little tike with dimple cheeks, a pumpkin size head, and a winning grin, just born for film. He first was cast on Two and a Half Men when he was about 10 and since then has been mired in a sitcom that showcases sex and smut. And as the "half" in Two in a half men, "Jake" wasn't immune from being dragged through the mud. From boners to masturbation to other trappings of pubescent development, he was sexualized in a shameless manner. But he was a kid, and what kid understands that they're being exploited.

    But now he's not a kid. He's 19, has given his heart to Christ, has associated himself with Christians, and is finally making some decisions for himself. And what did he decide? That two and a half men was filth and that people shouldn't be watching it. Some argue that he should be grateful for the $350,000 he is compensated per episode, and he certainly has become rich because of this show. But the question is, how much money justifies exposing a child to the kind of lavicious and racy comedy on this show and making him a part of it?

    He should get out. And if CBS wants to sue him for breach of contract, I think he has an excellent counter-suit that would knock the network down a few pegs.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Well, money and contracts overruled him and now he's back to apologizing for saying whatever it was he said.
     
  3. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    You'll notice it was a half apology, you know, the passive aggressive "I'm sorry if you felt offended" type of apologies. This isn't over. A seed has been planted in this young man and it will grow and overtake the weeds in his life.
     
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    Angus T. Jones's testimony is about a half hour broken up into two youtubes. Very interesting and one thing can be said for sure, his conversion to Christianity is genuine.

    Part 1:
    [video=youtube;FT0DpLkQYMU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT0DpLkQYMU&feature=share&list=UUigVeLA2k7U6Tzms0I1ByWw[/video]

    And Part 2:
    [video=youtube_share;KTju7uI8-1o]http://youtu.be/KTju7uI8-1o[/video]
     
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    He would be wise to look at the career of Kirk Cameron before he decides.

    Say your sorry, do the show, and turn to Christ after you make a crap load of money.

    God will wait.
     
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    Better yet do the show until his contract is up and live of his money he made and give some to his church that I'm guessing he supports. He must be making a few million a year at least and then he can live with his decisions with good conscious since apparently he believes he's promoting filth.
     
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    Everyone who "finds" God should be required to be silenced for the first year.

    Many people regret the "holy roller" attitude they develop shortly after finding Jesus. They often make drastic life changes that either aren't necessary or end up being way too extreme. This would probably be a case like that.
     
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    I also heard that he had an epiphany about his God while on drugs, that's usually a good frame of mind to be in to make big career ending choices and personal changes.
     
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    I don't know what Christians you've been talking to, but I've grown up in this culture, heard many, many testimonies, and never even a hint of regret at the new believer experience and all that it entails. You're proposing to silence somebody who's had every sin they ever committed forgiven, given the gift of the Holy Spirit, the presence of Jesus in their heart, a translation from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of God, and filled with the newness of life and Holy Spirit joy. You think you can keep them quiet? Good luck with that!

    Not exactly parallel situations. Kirk Cameron's acting on the popular 1980's sitcom "Growing pains" is not so riddled with regret. By comparison to Two and a Half Men, Growing pains was wholesome entertainment that was taciturn on sexual matters and didn't sexualize Kirk Cameron. There isn't even a remote similarity. But in regard to God's timing, it's no accident. You're right that Angus has to choose between the money he'll make with his one year contract and God, but he cannot put God on hold while doing something he knows will displease God. Not to be offensive, but you don't sound like you're a Christian. Jesus told one man to follow him. The man replied that he had to go home to bury his father. Jesus replied, "Let the dead bury the dead". When God calls somebody, there's no putting that off. That's what every Christian understands and what Angus understands as well.
     
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    I've been around the Church my entire life (funny since I'm an atheist) and many people become overzealous when they first become born again. Its not unnatural but people should really not make life changing decisions right away. People will usually settle into a normal mode of life a couple years after being born again but that first year when they can feel the power of God rushing through them is a time to probably step back and reflect on what they've just found.

    Not run off and change the world.

    I've seen people give away life savings, uproot children from schools and nice neigborhoods, run off to become missionaries in Africa, you name it. All because they have had a life altering moment. There is no need to be hasty, God isn't going anywhere.
     
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    However extreme and drastic these actions are to you, your claim that Christians later regret the bold moves they made as a new believer is simply false. As applied to Angus T. Jones, he needs to get out of the smut business. To you money may mean everything, but to a Christian who thinks on an eternal plane, money perishes like everything else and is not worth the corruption of the soul. Yes, he needs to make a big decision, pull stakes, and extract himself from that environment. That's a Christian point of view, and I'm by no means a newbie.
     
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    You remember that show very differently than I do. Wasn't Kirk Cameron's character's best friend named, "Boner?"
     
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    There is a saying, 'put your money where your mouth is'... If he's so disgusted by the show and his part in it. He should donate every dollar he's made producing 'smut' to some charity as penance.
     
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    If he really feels that way about the show, he should quit and donate whatever he made to charity.

    I doubt he'll do that, though.

    He was funny as a kid, but (*)(*)(*)(*) is he boring and uncharismatic as an adult.
     
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    Have you seen Two and a Half Men? Even a boner reference is benign compared to the filth in every episode. But even so, Kirk Cameron made a change and now only acts in specifically in Christian movies filmed in studios alternative to Hollywood. Some of his best work is in movies like "Fireproof" and the Left Behind series. He's definitely a committed Christian who doesn't want to compromise his faith.
     
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    I have a much more interesting take on smut than anything Angus T has ever witnessed.

    Or maybe he was that kid...

    I kid, I kid.
     
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    I disagree. With all the work he's done, he deserves to have the money to give him a good start in life, maybe go to college, etc. But the sad thing is, we should all be appalled at how a child is exploited and sullied as Angus was. From your post I gather that you don't share his opinion and my opinion on the matter. That's sad. Would you want your kid to be put through all that?
     
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    say what you want about Kirk Cameron, but he's a lot better off than Dana Plato.
     
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    Lol...Except that he has since recanted, apologized profusely and lavished praise on the show, so the more likely reason for his outburst is that he was brainwashed by the fundamentalist preacher that filled his head with cult beliefs and tried to get him to turn over his millions to his loony church.
    This is really a story about religious exploitation of the naive and the weak-minded.
     
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    I hope the young man finds his own way spiritually and in life. Religion CAN indeed lead you to the wrong places... when you're truly searching.
     
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    He fell prey to a cult. That's why he had his "preacher" monitoring his every word at the press conference the preacher organised to show off his catch.
     
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    You mean that you're afraid that religion would lead him to be a conservative. Well that's too bad because God leads people to the truth and truth is conservatism, not Leftism.
     

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