Differences in Crime Rates Among Racial Groups

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Victoria Klein, Apr 15, 2013.

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Which has the most influence on violent crime rates?

  1. Education

    43.2%
  2. Income

    37.8%
  3. Genes

    16.2%
  4. Other

    32.4%
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  1. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    smart parents have smart children because they have enriched environments...it's not race related, it's income related...
     
  2. wyly

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    as to the OP poll income and education are essentially the same thing...educated people have better incomes, better lifestyles, better options...this has been verified throughout the world, where ever educational standards are raised, population growth slows, poverty and crime decreases...education of women in particular provides the most significant results...eduction is the driver and the cure...
     
  3. CKW

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    Perhaps you need a little bit more life experience to see the reality. The chronic poor have plenty of food, food stamps and live in government supplied shelter. They have better healthcare then middle class. They are the ones that mob 7-11's in mass to see how much they can steal. For the thrill of it. The lack of supervision, morality and irresponsibile parenting create animals instead of children. That is simply the reality of it.
     
  4. Jackster

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    You sound like a creationist, theres more than enough scientific evidence to suggest very real difference in IQ between races. Theres differences in brain sizes between races which correlates to IQ.

    Given theres very real differences in incomes between IQ groups, IQ is mostly inherited then i think its rather obvious low IQs are more likely to be poor, more likely to live in scum neighborhoods and more prone to violence. Therefore genes plays a major role in all these things.
     
  5. CKW

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    I'm a creationist. Which means God created men and women in His image. And He won't like you playing like your God. Believe me. There are many many blacks who have more wisdom, intelligence and charactor then you.

    And I might add...that you think whites are immuned to this class depravity that black families are facing now. They aren't. Its just around the corner and you should focus on stopping the virus instead of assuming its race "gene" based.
     
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    Hey being a creationist is fine, the weight of evidence says we evolved but nothing is certain. Neither is the study of genetics we're very early days in the study and understanding of ourselves. The evidence however suggests that races do average different IQs, quite a bit in some cases. But IQ doesnt totally determine success of individually but as a group higher IQs earn more. Of course theres the bell curve to consider, so yes of course there plenty of blacks with higher IQs than myself, even though im on the right side of the whites bell curve.
     
  7. wyly

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    I'm 60 yrs old I need life experience from no one...I've been so poor that I personally went days without food so my kids could eat...I suggest it's you who is extremely short on life experience, anyone who has had inkling of what it's like to be poor wouldn't have as stupid a comment as you just did...
     
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    Yes, well like you I have been poor. I've had the medical card, section 8, food stamps and cash assistance. I never budgeted when I had all the benefits. But I do remember the sense of entitlement and how poisonous it is---to think society owes you.

    Perhaps you are misguided then. Because I would bet you that if you had the background of the mothers who born the children who are robbing, killing and beating people for the fun of it---you will find they live on a multitude of government benefits. And you would find that the fathers have long been out of the picture.
     
  9. wyly

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    there is absolutely no correlation between brain size and intelligence, NONE...there is no evidence to suggest a difference between races, NONE...in fact there isn't any evidence of races, NONE... we are one specie

    I supply you information that absolutely confirms IQ scores are absolutely linked to GDP/wealth and you now want to deflect class prejudice...by your logic East Germans are a different race/social class than West Germans and inherently less bright than their western brethren?...
     
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    IQ's don't compare to charactor and culture. Asians have in general higher IQ--but they aren't the super power are they? Character and culture and the values derived from it-- dictate a person's and a nation's destiny.
     
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    lol like the dog species and how all dogs are the same hey. No intelligence difference across those breeds, all exactly the same just fur color differences. Theres plenty of scientific evidence supporting IQ differences and brain sizes across human breeds / races, what ever you want to call them - normal people call it race. You egalitarians are a funny lot. Why do blacks win so many 100m sprint gold medals? Other colored people are lazy?
     
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    And if we look at Asian crime in the US its much lower than that of many other races, surprise surprise.
     
  13. CKW

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    Asians also have a history of totaltarianism and mass brutality. Sorry guy---its culture not race that dictates values.
     
  14. wyly

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    values being a very subjective thing, subject to change by education...but yes in the big picture it's culture and if within that culture there is a lack of education and poverty you will have much more crime...
     
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    not surprisingly you have nothing scientific to back any of that up...with the knowledge of the world at your fingertips you deliberately dwell in self induced ignorance in order to justify your prejudices...google is your friend if your honestly objective...
     
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    In many cases its a socio-cultural thing. There are many influences which have an effect regardless of race, but I will just talk about the racial influence. Heres a racial influence example, lets say that you are a young black kid growing up in America. Many of the other black kids in your middle school/high school are doing drugs, selling drugs, and have family/friends that are in gangs or are in a gang themselves and the only music anyone ever listens to is encouraging criminal behavior. Many black kids feel that since they are black they have to conform to their "race-role" or their black gangster stereotype. They initially want to be accepted by their peers and want to be respected. Their role-models are participating in or encouraging criminal behavior. This environment that they grow up in shapes who they become as a person and their environment shapes them to become criminals. I am not black. This racial influence occurs in many different races: italian, mexican, etc.
     
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    You can't predict what one person of a certain ethnic group will do on any sort of measure---but if you take a hundred of a certain group, they are very perdictable.

    It's not the PC thing to say, but science already proves that intelligence, like running and jumping skills, are genetically linked. The brain does not exsist in its own universe. It works like every other part of the body. The idea that "you can be anything you want to be" is just plain false.

    1.The Worldwide Pattern of IQ Scores. East Asians average higher on IQ tests than Whites, both in the U. S. and in Asia, even though IQ tests were developed for use in the Euro-American culture. Around the world, the average IQ for East Asians centers around 106; for Whites, about 100; and for Blacks about 85 in the U.S. and 70 in sub-Saharan Africa.
    http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/9530.aspx

    The above information is obviously banned from the major media. Blacks do poorly in advanced cultures everywhere they exsist in any numbers. Blacks score better in Western Countries like the US becaue their gene pool has been mixed with off-Black genes.

    For those environmental proponents (like BF Skinner) that think the environment is everything---explain why Blacks in every part of Sub-Saharan Africa are at the bottom of every human development index. After a half century of freedom from evil White colonialists, you'd think at least one of the dozens of countries there would be doing well. But they are all basket cases.
     
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    more racist BS, you cling to it because it fits your agenda...
     
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    :roll: Phillipe Rushton who had his Uni funding yanked because he was an idiot, completely discredited himself...
     
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    but that doesn't fit the racist agenda found here...as you say where you grow up your status and income determine behaviour and IQ...

    the brain is very flexible like any muscle in your body it can grow or shrink with use or non use, and I have the best source of info for that a good friend a Neurologist...if behaviour was linked to brain size Einstein with average sized brain would have been nothing more than average but he was anything but average...
     
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    Science-based facts don't fit your agenda, so you cling to them the same as the people that thought the world was flat and the sun relvoled around the earth.
     
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    can't it be both? by the way, what about adopted asians?
     
  24. wyly

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    :icon_jawdrop: oh! the irony of that statement...your racist slant being the product of centuries of ingrained unscientific hate and my position that of modern science...so who is it that is clinging to the flat earth concept :roll: :roflol:
     
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    My favorite point to make about adversity is the case of Japan. An earthquake, tsunami and volcano-prone island, with few natural resources and ground zero for no less than 2 nuclear bombs, yet somehow it's not stuck in the stone age, like Sub-Saharan Africa.
     

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