Which criteria are you referring to? I was referring to libhaters noxious statements of wanting to deny a woman's right to vote. The liberal woman's vote, that is. I don't think conservative women are dumb as floorboards - except that any woman who'd accept a man wanting to deny a woman's right to vote WOULD be as dumb as floor boards.
Its the truth. Deal with it. The fact that the mother's interest is defended and acted upon. The fetus has no interest - not even in being alive. Thus, abortion is part of liberty and a free society.
Both racists Margaret Sanger (the feminist) and Hitler believed in euthanasia, abortion, genocide and eugenics. I doubt the subjects to those nefarious killing principles would have considered them to be liberating.
Both racists Margaret Sanger (the feminist) and Hitler believed in euthanasia, abortion, genocide and eugenics. I doubt the subjects to those nefarious killing principles would have considered them to be liberating.
How would you respond to a woman on a forum telling you she wanted to take a man's right to vote away? Would you think her a nutter?
Give proof of this claim. Even if that were true, which it isnt... so what? The only immoral activity is genocide and eugenics, although the latter is open to debate. LOL The subjects (in the moral instances of such policies I said were ok being applied) would not have cared at all - they wouldn't even realize they existed (or were in so much pain that they preferred death).
No links? No quotes? Disingenuous post of the century. Lazy lazy poster you are. Can't link or quote. Can't show reason substance or sense. Again the mish mash and the blurring of the lines... It must be because you can't think straight. Or you're deluded, or both. Genocide indeed. Grow up. You post like a twit.
I'm done with you missy. If and until you can address the actions or non actions of your feminist sisters in the OP, then we have nothing further to talk/debate about. The nefarious actions, beliefs and agendas of both Sanger and Hitler are known worldwide. Anyone taking World History 101 in their school classes would know of the history of those two scoundrels..even those living down under a rock in some faraway continent where world news evidently isn't that readily available.
hahah you got owned by a feminist! Sanger was quite a legend. Indeed, most people remember her as pioneer of liberty and Hitler as a monster - entirely correct and contrary to your nonsense.
Pro-abortion is about as anti-liberty as it gets. You're depriving someone of the basic right to life. And don't say you disagree with this because the whole crux of your argument that you consistently repeat in the abortion section is, "It's okay to kill them because they don't know that they're alive." You fully admit that you are taking a life. Kind of proving the OP's point about disengenuousness, don't you think?
Nonsense. A free society MUST have abortion rights. So? Indeed I do. What is wrong with taking life where the being involved has no capacity let alone existing pursuit of an interest in being alive? Only if you are right, which you are not. You know, Unifier, from the statement you said once about morality being objective, I thought you would be one of the few lifers that might contest my position, but you always seem to come close and then disappear before we get started.
I wonder how many people here in their youth had a mother that had 18 pregnancies in 22 years, only to die at age 50 of tuberculosis and cervical cancer. Or to have been a nurse and to have watched helplessly as women were dying from their attempts to self-abort. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger Anyone comparing Sanger to Hitler is complete and utter (*)(*)(*)(*)ing moron. I shouldn't be surprised the way pockets of the loony-right recreate / re-invent history to promulgate their nuttiness / and HYSTERIA. Particularly those drawn to fetuses while pouring hateful disgusting rants on a number of groups of people. That is the ultimate NONSENSE and IGNORANCE of these people.
I suggest you and your X-generation side kick megadeath carefully read the following link and a few of your icon Maraget Sanger's racist and exterminating quotes concerning blacks, fetesus and anything that represents 'bad stock'. "The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." "Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need...We must pprevent multiplication of this bad stock." "We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population". http://lifedynamics.com/deathcamps/Holocaust6.cfm I also suggest you 'google' Hitler & Margaret Sanger together so as to get the proper perspective of your 'Planned Parenhood' founder's similarities to Hitler. Their views on eugenics and race are almost if not exactly identical, with the only difference being technical....Hitler want to exterminate the jews while Sanger wanted to exterminate the Negroes.
Boo yeah, honourable mention. hehe Read in context is entirely sound: " Many, perhaps will think think it idle to go farther in demonstrating the immorality of large families, but since there is still an abundance of proof at hand, it may be offered for the sake of those who find difficulty in adjusting old fashioned ideas to facts. The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it. The same factors which create the terrible infant mortality rate, and which swell the death rate of children between the ages of one and five, operate even more extensively to lower the health rate of the surviving members." You can read the rest for your self, it's on Chapter 5, page 63. IN CONTEXT, "Today Eugenics is suggested by the most diverse minds as the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems....The doctrine of Birth Control is now passing through the stage of ridicule, prejudice and misunderstanding. In the limited space of the present paper, I have time only to touch upon some of the fundamental convictions that form the basis of our Birth Control propaganda, and which, as I think you must agree, indicate that the campaign for Birth Control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical in ideal, with the final aims of Eugenics." For Sanger, eugenics was a genetic tool for strengthening the human race by building stronger human beings, not by eliminating any particular group. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101206125036AA5tNIA An entirely sound advocacy. Eugenics is something I am quite open to personally. This quote has no source and is most likely a lie and total fabrication. It isnt similar to Hitler at all. Why are you lying? Failing too hard? Why are you lying so much? I mean, we all knew you were getting your ass kicked but did you really think we wouldnt see through your bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? LOL You suck at debating Libhater. To anyone else reading this, who wants the truth about Sanger, particularly around the claims by those like Libhater and other devious liars, you can see clarification of Sanger quotes, in context, here: http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/sightings/2009-special.html https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...X_-mvr&sig=AHIEtbRDNiBTLEHnbjTMYNiAbjKf7j4W2g
Are you really that pathetic Libhater that you have to lie to everyone in order to make a case? I pity you.
I see, anyone that doesn't support your illogical twisting of the facts is to be considered a liar. Not even Gwen could come back here in support of her new found idol Maragret Sanger, for even she would be embarrassed to consider ms Sanger to be anything but a genocidal racist monster. But just to clear your misconceptions about ms Sanger, I'll leave you with this utube video giving a very telling and factual quote from your icon that proves you are twisted to the point of no return. Btw, are there any pregnancies you deem worthy to go through the full cycle to an actual birth? Must we or (any American pregnant woman) first consult with you and your feminist ilk before allowing a birth of GOD's children? Where you and your kind just soon perfrom abortions, euthanasia and eugenics at an alarming genocidal rate, me and my kind-(ness) would prefer to segregate the races so as to prevent racism, crime and genocide. Out of the two..you and me...who does it look like that would be more prone to kill or murder someone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CJqPpTCYO4
I see, anyone that doesn't support your illogical twisting of the facts is to be considered a liar. Not even Gwen could come back here in support of her new found idol Maragret Sanger, for even she would be embarrassed to consider ms Sanger to be anything but a genocidal racist monster. But just to clear your misconceptions about ms Sanger, I'll leave you with this utube video giving a very telling and factual quote from your icon that proves you are twisted to the point of no return. Btw, are there any pregnancies you deem worthy to go through the full cycle to an actual birth? Must we or (any American pregnant woman) first consult with you and your feminist ilk before allowing a birth of GOD's children? Where you and your kind just soon perfrom abortions, euthanasia and eugenics at an alarming genocidal rate, me and my kind-(ness) would prefer to segregate the races so as to prevent racism, crime and genocide. Out of the two..you and me...who does it look like that would be more prone to kill murder someone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CJqPpTCYO4
Oh my, Sanger was a big hit with the KKK. Gwendoline isn't going to like this revelation. I'm sure Magadeath will come on here and say that picture was photoshopped or somptin. LOL!
Excellent rebuttal, Megadeth. I see all they can come back at you with is an adolescent FAKE pic from a rightwing 'art' contest, LOL. The depths to these people, staggering, huh? And they talk about 'disingenuous' I mean, how funny is that, posting FAKE pics. And bleating about 'disingenuous'. A humongous LOL!! to that. I lost a huge post I'd compiled last night, but will reconstruct it when I get time.
Genocidal racist monster, LOL. You guys are a riot, truly. Would love to see you fella's frothing at the mouth at your local hate-get-togethers, LOL!! Margaret Sanger: "Discrimination is a world-wide thing. It has to be opposed everywhere. That is why I feel the Negros plight here is linked with that of the oppressed around the globe. The big answer, as I see it, is the education of the white man. The white man is the problem. It is the same as with the Nazis. We must change the white attitudes. That is where it lies. http://sangerpapers.wordpress.com/2012/02/23/another-look-at-margaret-sanger-and-race/?tw_p=twt
