D'Jango's Mom was drinking wine and eating chips during last stand

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  1. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    Oh, yeah, them L.A. cops and Navy Reserve people are such a bunch of liberalWill you people stop with that "progresive hero" bull (*)(*)(*)(*)?

    Looks more like one of you all's.
     
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    Dorner was not a very successful sailor or cop because he was kicked out of the Navy and the LAPD.
     
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    In 2002 Dorner found $8,000 and returned it to a church.
     
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    So?

    Does that excuse killing two civilians in cold blood?
     
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    Do you think its an "excuse"? I don't... but it is a curiosity.. He was interviewed back then.... and what he had to say about honesty and integrity were interesting.
     
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    Well, he is too old for her to collect welfare off of him so what does she care. Now she can join Tracy and Sybrina on the trash can tour begging for money.
     
  7. Alwayssa

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    As for the the Navy, Dorner was honorably discharged. I would hardly call that being "kicked out" of the Navy.

    However, he was kicked out of the LAPD that stemmed from an incident in a hotel where he got into a scuffle with a senior LAPD officer at that time. From there, his careeer with LAPD went downhill.

    This doesn't excuse what he hid nor does it excuse the implied innuendo that you are attempting to portray in your post.
     
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    He was passed over for promotion twice.

    That spells to end of the line for officers.
     
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    Then that means he reached the maximum potential in the Navy and it happens in the Navy as well as the other branches.

    Yet, that still does not mean he was kicked out.
     
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    No.

    It means he was a screwup.

    Your fellow libs have been praising Dorner for being so intelligent and articulate so you can't now turn around and say he was just too dumb to make it in the Navy.
     
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    There are a lot of reasons why one is passed over for promotion in the Navy. Being a screwup isn't one of them. That generally gets you promoted and shipped off where you can't screw up anymore, at least in the old days.
     
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    Yes, and none of them are good.

    You can argue that the Navy misjudged Dorner.

    It's not easy to do because he was evaluated and graded by a number of commanders during his career and they couldn't all be out to get him.

    But I think the fact that he ended his live as a fugative wanted for multiple murders says that the Navy was right about him.
     
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    None of us know what his evaluations were and how he was rated, yet we do know that he was honorably discharged from the Navy. That is better than just being discharged or dishonorably discharged if he was truly the type of screwup that you want him to be in your own mind.
     
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    It's been reported that he was passed over for promotion.

    So whatever was said in his evaluations it wasn't good.
     
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    Bottom line: Dorner was a psycho. Sooner or later it comes out. It doesn't matter why he was passed over for a promotion or fired from the LAPD, he was a psycho. I'm sure no one wanted him around.;
     
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    Not even Obama who normally attaches himself to any black person who claims police mistreatment.
     
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    Funny how Obama felt moved to comment on other tragedies but has been silent on this one.
     
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    Odd, isn't it?
     
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    Christopher Dorner could have been Obama's son, just like Obama said about Trayvon. Where is big mouth Obama spouting more of his racial divisiveness?
     
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    Dorner was 33, not 17.
     
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    I think of Dorner more as Obama's half brother even if he did not live in a mud hut in Africa.

    Surely mein Führer wants to share his thoughts and anxieties about the police in this case too?
     
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    It's been a long time since I've disagreed with you on something, and here it is. While it's certainly not a major story, her reaction does seem to explain a bit about how her son turned out the way he did. I know my mom would be a lot more animated, shall we say, were I under fire for whatever reasons like Dorner was. Her lackadaisical attitude towards her son's apparent demise kind of says a lot about Dorner indirectly. I kind of pity him if he was raised by this iceberg. I do have to wonder what he might have said if he were on a psychiatrist's couch and was asked "So, tell me about your mother,"

    Even Al Capone's mom defended her son. This one - I just can't with that one.

    Too late!
     
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    No.. His mother drinking wine and eating chips is not a story.

    Except maybe for the National Enquirer.
     
  24. happy fun dude

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    It's only second hand hearsay.. You can't even see this.

    If she were to show sadness and despair, she would instead be slandered for sympathizing with a killer, because only sick people attack family members.

    It may not have even been her at all. Just a woman who "matches the description"... How do we even know?

    Al Capone isn't even a murderer like this guy. Al Capone also went through a trial process. How would you expect this woman to "defend" her son at that moment?

    Even if true, what else would she be doing besides getting drunk? Isn't hitting the drink like the FIRST thing any of us would do to cope with such a situation? You would want your friends around to distract you, or you wouldn't but your friends would insist on caring for you. If it was her at the restaurant, she may have already been there before the story appeared on the TV. Maybe a soap got interrupted. Wine and chips maybe were already on the table.. Maybe their consumption was completely autonomous while she was focused on the events.

    Maybe she didn't want to advertise to others that it's her son, for fear of reprisals.. Maybe she didn't want to cry over a killer dying!!! She's in a public place, maybe she doesn't want to identify with a cold blooded killer there because people would probably take objection to that and some might harm HER for how dare she cry over a murderer! Maybe she's scared. Maybe she's embarrassed.

    She may have dissociated as a defense mechanism, or she might have been so drunk she was already dissociated. Some people get so drunk you could light their kids on fire and they'd only laugh.

    How does ANYONE know what was going on inside her mind or how she was feeling?

    Aversion to events is actually a rather common psychological reaction for traumatic occurrences. This can come in the form of simply not mentally engaging whatever it is you see before you. Some might, they will glue their eyes to the sight and drop their jaw.. Others will naturally have a defense mechanism to avoid trauma, and that is their mind will refuse to let them mentally engage it.. Distance yourself.. For example a kid continuing to play with dolls while his mother gets beat, or a hostage who just rocks back and forth staring at one spot in front of them only for hours, perhaps muttering something.

    Sometimes a person might go through the motions autonomously while being completely mentally focused on the traumatic occurrence. You must have seen something like this before. They are very distraught but they appear like a robot still doing whatever repetitive task.

    Unless she makes a press statement to say she doesn't give a (*)(*)(*)(*), we don't know how she feels about this. We have far to little information, and no footage, to determine how she was feeling at the time. Even then you'd need to be either a psychologist or a psychic.
     

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