Do republicans want to outlaw adultry and pre marital sex?

Silly question that I'm surprised anyone dignified with a response.

Do democrats want to outlaw profits and church?

 

Really?

(character minimum)

 

They will not admit it.

 

^I really wish people that think like this would wake the (*)(*)(*)(*) up and take an honest look at who is truly legislating morality in this country. I'll give you a hint; it's not the Republicans.

 

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False...Rick Santorum even believes pre marital sex should be legislated.

 

ohforcryingoutloud.

 

That change will have to come through the major parties as a result of a change at the grassroots level (a change in the philosophy of the voters). We get big govt from the major parties because that is what a sufficient number of voters want.

 

Of course not. Just because they don't believe in it, doesn't mean they would want to make a law against it. Just because people are against things like that doesn't mean it's for religious reasons. Some people think it's just morally wrong. Not Liberals of course. They see nothing wrong in anything.

 

That's not fair to say. Many Conservatives I've known and observed have low or warped morals; they aren't necessarily right, good or holy people.
Yet, we should ALL check ourselves if/when we pass any judgement upon others. Look in the mirror, sometimes there is a hypocrite standing there.

Please, don't stereotype decent people; that helps nothing.

Let's be real about this.

 

got a flink for that.

 

If they did most Republicans would go to jail.

Newt has has a few affairs of his own, for example.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/11/newts-women-newt-gingrich_n_860341.html#s277211&title=19621980

So they would only hurt themselves if they ever actually did pass such a law.

But I doubt they have the power to do so. it would be just too unpopular.

 

Actually its the hardcore muslims who would advocate for the above. And they collaborate with liberal democrats.....so there you go.

 

You are absolutely correct. A lot of times what I see in Conservatives (social ones) is such a DESIRE to rise above their own 'humanness'... they'd impose what they believe upon others, as if "God" or "Jesus" would grant them some 'points' or spiritual 'kudos' for whipping OTHERS into shape... or something similar to that.

I've gone from being a practicing Catholic to Born Again Charismatic believer. And I don't regret what I got from that spiritually... but Lord knows I hypocrisy all but chased me away from the holier-than-thou types. I cannot stand it anymore. Why talk to me about Jesus Christ, if you can't knock the DEVIL off of your shoulder... just to be 'decent' to and 'caring' toward other people? I'm literally weary of people who would compel and coerce others so ruthlessly, all the while ACTING as if they are so virtuous they have not ever stumbled or fallen.

But those who make such a claim to righteousness or holiness... often step up where they do not have the ability to do so. Rather than gently admonishing others or encouraging them toward the best or right behavior, they LORD their religious views over them and would even IMPOSE their standards via law (as many politicians dubiously promise to do).

Many Americans (in a generational way, not just THIS election) are sick and tired of politicians like Santorum, who use 'religion' to promise what they cannot deliver what they claim to; legislation that forces or leads to some type of 'Christian' morality.

For the life of me, I cannot see why these guys don't SEE the real needs of people, and promote policies which help those needs to be met. They seem so be about themselves and their own special (political) interests. Even so, I've seen so many who claim the greatest holiness, fall flat on their faces... often because of the very things they decry so adamantly as politicians.

There are many things that would be reasonable to "outlaw", if they made real sense to. In my opinion, the best we could do is lovingly encourage one another to do what is right or better. As far as human sexuality is concerned... it makes sense to leave any non-violent and consensual behaviors to the consciences of those involved in the same. And the literal hypocrites who display their false piety for political gain, are nothing more than a moral blight on society itself.

 

I advocate for maintaining a "hardcore"... Separation of Church and State. In that, we have the best protection of rights for all (the religious and the non-believer).

 

I'm being as realistic as the author of this thread.

 

Why should they bother? Adultery laws are already on the books!

Mississippi --

Lest you think that we're a bunch of religious, right-wing, rednecks down here, please allow me to also post the adultery statute for the state of Wisconsin --

A Class I felony in Wisconsin is up to $10,000 and 3-1/2 years in prison.

 

Okay, let's see:

I'd say that 'some' individuals do promote their hardcore religious views. This week I listened to many at CPAC, and it does seem they would seek to not merely hold 'personally' certain religious values, but actively seek to promote/impose those values via legislation. That concerns me greatly as a human being.

I could be wrong, but I do not doubt that one or all of the above mentioned, would run head-on into some Church/State conflict... or cause great unrest by trying to impose their religious beliefs as office holders.

They might try that, but they'd be thrown out on their heads by the majority of people. Not that adultery is "okay" or "right"... but that using government to impose sexual-morality (where there is no violence or issue of consent such as rape or sex with a minor) isn't acceptable to most Americans today.

(see the above)

I think the Tea-Party more than most other things, allowed certain radical, far right wing Christian zealots to gain a voice within government. This hasn't been a good thing overall. It has led to political head-butting in Congress as I've never seen in my lifetime. And yes, many of those on the the far-right have also shown a disdain and disrespect for a "Black" President, that is so irrational that I personally think it is racism (or at least extreme prejudice). It has been a major turn-off for myself and others who tend to be moderates or independents.

Marine1, I don't see where the OP is particularly 'unrealistic'; but if you do align yourself with those on the far-right, I can see where you might be rather annoyed by the same.

All I can say is that I'm rather concerned about the Republican Party (or those on the far-Right) in general. I see a lot of intransigence and unwillingness to even compromise, when in the course of solving LARGE, OLD problems such as this nation is seeking to resolve... is absolutely required. I'm not out here to be so arrogant as to imagine that a Liberal such as myself has ALL of the answers... but I would like to interact with people on the other side who don't automatically see a Liberal as someone who is inherently "evil" or lacking good idea or values for America. By the same token, I've met many decent Conservatives, reasonable people. But God knows that we get more radical people here, than I usually run into on the streets. (But maybe the anonymity here has a bit to do with that.)

In any case, I can see where a person such as myself who wishes to see Separation of Church and State honored, is more readily concerned by certain "religious" candidates on the Right. That kind of concern is valid and understandable IMO.

 

I think a lot of people who aren't religious think sex before marriage is wrong, along with adultry. I think many non religious people think it wrong to not honor your parents or covet what's your neighbors. Many of these religious laws are also plain comon decency that many people believe in.

 

We do not. Conservatives like sex just as much as leftists. They just don't consider an STD to be a badge of honor.

 

Personally, I don't think it's wrong... but I do think it is better if someone who really wants marriage actually tries to "wait"; so that the baggage or residue of multiple sexual experiences with other people does not disadvantage the super-intimacy they seek or dream of with the ONE (soul-mate). That is one reason I hope that more gay people can/will see marriage as an option someday.

Sure, I know atheists who have values and stick closely to them. The only thing they don't know, is the spiritual connection... though many seem to even be closer to that than many who are religious might imagine.

 

It used to be if a girl got pregnant out of wedlock, people looked down on her. Parents would ship her off to a relative's house till she gave birth. It wasn't just because of religion they thought so, it's good girls didn't do things like that. Now we have Hollywood stars that people look up to living together unmarried and having several children. Forget about religion, is that what we want to teach our children to do?

We have millions of women on welfare that have several kids that are unmarried. Quit school because they got pregnant and are but a burden on society. They have no education, no skill to get a job. But don't think anything about it. What are we teaching our kids today? It sure isn't to be responsible.

We put out movies with people using the four letter word every few minutes and we hear the same thing coming out of our own kid's mouth. Do you think that's what our forefathers were thinking when they talked about free speech?

We have gotten to the point in our society that we view nothing as wrong. If it feels good do it. We are paying dearly for those beliefs.

 

I hope people are taught to care or be concerned for others. I can't disagree with your overall concerns. But I can only do something about that one person at a time; and I usually do.

 

And Obama won a majority of all those states with adultry laws in place.