Do They Teach Anything Realistic During Black History Month?

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  1. Pierce

    Pierce New Member

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    Jonah, if you don't understand the difference between psychology and intelligence, you'll need to put in some book work on your own time. This forum is for discussing viewpoints, not educating you.
     
  2. Pierce

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    I think that's the point he's making, sarcastically. What are their "accomplishments in society" that you speak of? Their most notable "contributions" seem to be wrecking cities such as Detroit or Philadelphia etc., committing a grossly disproportionate amount of violent crime, and posing an enormous burden on social entitlement programs.

    Therefore, lacking any substantive, positive contributions, they are forced to elevate and/or embellish (if not flat-out create)largely inconsequential accomplishments. And they use BHM as a tool for that.
     
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    Here's an easy solution ...

    If you don't want to Celebrate Black History Month you can choose not to. If you don't see any benefit for you personally, please feel free to do something else with your time.

    BTW ... it's March 1st ... I think I'm going to Celebrate this month also.

    Why ... because I F'ing feel like and there's nothing anyone can do about it. :nana:
     
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    You may as well have said "I don't know what intelligence is"
     
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    CanadianEye Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He wants to rail against blacks, because statistically he has some valid ammo to do so. He is a racist. That is what racists are supposed to do.

    Going beyond that observation is what is important.

    Would introducing negative information regarding blacks, into the BHM alloted time of societal awareness (always used for positive reinforcement), help or hinder the national dialog?
     
  6. Libhater

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    What Zook and others are saying here is that there is nothing other than a negative history of blacks in which to introduce to this farce called black history month. We still haven't seen anyone (especially the black forum members) come up with anything worthy of black accomplishments to be considered in their honor of this month or of their history.
     
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    Didn't I cite a few accomplishments in like the 2nd page of this thread? Or another BHM-type of thread?
     
  8. Libhater

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    Well, it wasn't this tread, and I do remember someone (perhaps yourself) listing a few black names with their mark on something other than on an accomplishment of history.
     
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    George Edward Alcorn, Jr. received a four-year academic scholarship to Occidental College in Los Angeles, where he graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Physics. George Edward Alcorn received his degree with honors while earning eight letters in basketball and football. George Edward Alcorn earned a Master of Science in Nuclear Physics in 1963 from Howard University, after nine months of study. During the summers of 1962 and 1963, George Alcorn worked as a research engineer for the Space Division of North America Rockwell. He was involved with the computer analysis of launch trajectories and orbital mechanics for Rockwell missiles, including the Titan I and II, Saturn IV, and the Nova.

    In 1967, George Edward Alcorn earned a Ph.D. in Atomic and Molecular Physics from Howard University. Between 1965-67 Alcorn conducted research on negative ion formation under a NASA-sponsored grant. Dr. George Edward Alcorn holds eight patents in the United States and Europe on semiconductor technology, one of which is a method of fabricating an imaging X-ray spectrometer. His area of research includes: adaptation of chemical ionization mass spectrometers for the detection of amino acids and development of other experimental methods for planetary life detection; classified research involved with missile reentry and missile defense; design and building of space instrumentation, atmospheric contaminant sensors, magnetic mass spectrometers, mass analyzers; and development of new concepts of magnet design and the invention of a new type of x-ray spectrometer.and limbs.
     
  10. Pierce

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    I think going beyond your observation, "He is a racist..." would be more important and constructive. Introducing the truth into the national dialogue is what we need. Far too many, like yourself I surmise, are afraid to have a candid conversation, choosing instead to simply label everyone who poses such a question as a racist, an anti-semite, or what have you.

    That being said, it's somewhat understandable. These are very uncomfortable truths to confront, and academia has been brainwashing students for decades. It takes inordinate strength and courage to seek the truth and accept it, even when it makes us uncomfortable.
     
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    I don't believe I labled him. Doesn't Zook identify himself as a racist? If he hasn't/doesn't then I retract that statement. (could have sworn he was one of the ones pointedly stating they were actual racists, and proud of it)

    Anyways, I don't shirk from candid conversations about racism. I think the solution is in understanding inherent white privilege and understanding racial identifiers etc.
     
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    He might self-identify as a racist, I don't know. But you're suggesting that 'this is what they're supposed to do' as though his points are not worth consideration, simply because he may be a racist.

    Understanding white privilege isn't going to explain the conditions under which blacks live where whites do not exist. Look around the globe. There's no jackbooted privileged whites holding down the people of Haiti. Left to their own devices, blacks are incapable of maintaining a civilized society. I wish that weren't true, but it is. If you're willing to speak candidly, please do so. Explain why that is.
     
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    Name one, just one white society that is civilized in your opinion..
     
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    Wow. That would be pretty long explanation, but to cut it somewhat shorter (since I didn't make my statement of inherent white privilege regarding anything other than N.A.)

    Africa had some impressive empires. They also had a rather important holocaust...and then the technologically advantaged Europeans literally moved in. Nations and empires are cyclical, and nothng can stop that...not even our vaunted white skinned current dominance can stop that.

    Regarding Americas inherent white privilege, I think we have not even had 2 full generations since Sundown to HUD in the late 60's. We force blacks to cities via racism and forced white privilege and then enable them with well intentioned, but long term crippling policies/orgs like HUD and "The Projects" et al.

    After a while they feel completely locked in and localized to cities, and it cycles the enabling (liberalized management vote harvesting made easy 101), and also give an impression (since the cities get the media attention) that blacks are poor lazy malcontents...exclusively.

    Do you think a couple of generations is too short or too long to see significant gains in the black community, as a whole?
     
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    This area of the Forum is Hilarious ... :mrgreen:
     
  16. Pierce

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    Well, to be sure, Africa had some rather powerful kingdoms. Their demise I think were as much due to internal strife if not moreso than European influence. Not that this excuses the African holocaust in any way. I just have a hard time accepting that the socio-economic problems faced by blacks worldwide today is a result of European enslavement.

    I would be inclined to say two generations is too brief a period a time to see significant gains. However, all of the signs are very troubling. The black family unit, illegitimacy, crime, etc have all gotten worse in this time period. This is coupled with blacks' unwillingness to assimilate into our society, or take any responsibility for their own community. Without question, liberal social policies have contributed to this, but that's just one factor. Their inability to compete in a white society has left them a permanent underclass. I see no hope of that changing, regardless of how much time passes or how many dollars we throw at the problem. Blacks being seen as poor, lazy malcontents is not just a media impression. In fact, I would argue that the main-stream media bends over backwards to blur that impression. It's rooted in fact, borne out by every statistical measure.
     
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    In todays society, black history month or not, black "people" are known more for destroying cities like detroit, Baltimore and St. Louis. They're known more for introducing the "drive-by shooting" the "gang-rape" and "gang-banging" to our society. They're known more for butchering the English language and creating 500-per-year murder cities in our country. They're known more for bring violence, Cholera and STDs to our society more than their accomplishments... many of which I am personally aware of.

    Whichever way you want to look at it, black "people" contribute far more negativity to our society than positivity. That is a fact, if you value human life... of which they take around 20 a day on American soil.

    So... they already teach these "wonderous accomplishments" blacks have produced in the past (half of which are probably false or exaggerated, I look around today at black folk and can't imagine for the life of me them accomplishing anything worthy of praise) why don't they teach anything realistic like all the negative things blacks have contributed to society? We sure as hell teach all about our negative points in history, why can't they do the same?

    No one with a brain or who isn't brainwashed is ever going to take black history month seriously. It's a joke. It's stupid and infantile... but then they're catering to a "race" full of infants.
     
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    European Nations have been Killing each other for centuries. WW1, WW2 had their roots in Europe. Communism started in Europe (Remember Karl Marx, Frederic Engle?? -- 2 Germans??). Europeans waged Wars in the name of God, when infact they were killing for land, riches and glory. It was Europeans who created the Atomic/Nuclear bomb.

    If Whites were/are so civilized why did they need to spread their disease,filth onto the New World of the Americas, and in the process destroying the Incan, Mayan, Aztec civilizations, not to mention the various tribes of N. America??

    Oh and BTW the only reason European nations pulled out ahead of other civilizations technologically, and Economically was only due to discovery of the New World. The colonization of New World, helped by slave labor, brought taxes, raw materials to Europe, fueling the Industrial Revolution. The Whites pushed their own laboring class during the Industrial Revolution so far that it eventually lead the Marxist/Communist movement.

    Theres your civilized white history of the last 500 years in a nutshell.
     
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    Yes they do ... Obviously the Struggle Continues ... Just Read this Thread.
     
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    What struggle, and what does your perceived struggle have to do with historical accomplishments? :blahblah:
     
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    I wonder how many African Americans would be willing to have their own independent states, worked/lived by Blacks and governed by Blacks without subservience to the Federal Gov't of the United STates.

    Literally, a separate Union of African American States.

    But of course the Federal gov't makes it clear that secession from the Union of United States is a treasonous act, and the Civil War have shown what lengths this gov't will go thru to enforce its will upon the people and the States.
     
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    The Topic is: Do They Teach Anything Realistic During Black History Month?

    The answer is ... from a real Black Person ... YES?

    Do "we" as Black People need the to prove anything to anyone who is NOT Black what is learned during Black History Month? NO!

    Why ... be as an actual Black Person ... I said so!

    If you don't like it ... start your own month.


    Question asked ... from an non-expert!

    Question answered ... from an expert!
     
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    My guess is very, very few. We can see today what that would look like. It's called Detroit.
     
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