Do you believe 9/11 was an inside job and why?

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Was 9/11 an inside job?

  1. Yes

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    28.9%
  2. No

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    72.3%
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  1. Vlad Ivx

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    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    It's too early to think of a result. But the PF shall never stop growing and more voters should come. The difference between my poll and this is that this one gives only a flat yes or no. When they get a yes and a no box only, even people who have passive doubts at the back of their mind towards the official story vote no. But my poll is more complete because when you give more options you force people to think. It's a psychological trick. :smile: The more you make ppl think about 9/11, the more they say yes. :smile: Or in general the more inclined they are to doubt, even without doing all the research we do here, just out of their own gut instinct, just out of what they saw on TV.
     
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    Yet this poll is newer and has more votes. How does that fit with your logic above?
     
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    only scientificall random polls count, bro.
     
  6. genericBob

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    Reality is not a matter of consensus.
    it is what it is, no matter what any mere mortals may think.
     
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    yeah, but 5 experts speak louder than 1,000 Truthers.
     
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    do those 5 "experts" speak louder than the evidence?
    How does an "expert" explain away totally improbable events?
    Such as an aircraft that penetrates a skyscraper wall without slowing down. A "collapse" event the descends at 64% of the acceleration of gravity and in the process completely destroys a steel framed skyscraper..... whats up with that?
    Total of 4 commercial airliners virtually made to disappear....
    ( Harry Potter's wand? ) or? Total of 4 flight recorders missing from the ground zero wreckage, and is anybody truly concerned? and if not, WHY NOT?
     
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    Assuming facts not in evidence,STILL,Bob?

    Really?
     
  11. Vlad Ivx

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    Yet my poll has way more views. It fits with the logic above that it makes people think more... ;) , or perhaps even hesitate.
     
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    More views, but fewer people cared to vote or comment. So logic shows they viewed and didn't care.
     
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    The fact that you don't like it, doesn't alter the validity of the evidence.
     
  14. Vlad Ivx

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    Logic may also show they viewed and needed to think more.
     
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    Faulty logic would show that. If they couldn't even be bother to check "possibly", they're most likely not doing anything else about it.
    Naturally, we could speculate all day.

    Has there been an increase in letters to Congress regarding 9/11? Letters to the editor? Anything published/ reported on/ happening anywhere in the world?
    More and bigger protests? Engineering papers published?
     
  16. l4zarus

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    And could any of the 20 people on the forum who voted for "Inside Job", please explain why they cling to that belief in the absence of protests, peer reviewed papers by reputable organizations, or any political gains for "911 truth" whatsoever?
     
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    in YOUR opinion ...... BTW: the Toronto hearings are a good place to start if anyone wants to know what the "truther" community is up to, its going to take time for enough people to wake up before the movement can reach critical mass and then truly be a force for change. How many years was it between the initial resolution about the Tonkin Gulf resolution, and the release of the FACT that the whole thing was based on FRAUD?
     
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    When did you first "wake up" and decide you were a "truther"?
     
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    it really wasn't as if there was a need to "wake up"
    I have always been awake in this matter, on the very day that is 9/11/2001, I saw the towers "collapse" and I KNEW that it was a fake attack, a totally engineered event that would be passed of as a terrorist attack by radical Arabs as an excuse to pump up the war machine and make $$$! for the military industrial complex.
     
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    That's a very interesting collection of things you "knew" instantly. So why do you think it would
    " its going to take time for enough people to wake up before the movement can reach critical mass and then truly be a force for change."?

    Since you are admitting to being part of the so called "truth" movement for going on 13 years, is should not have escaped you the "movement" such as it was peaked in 2006-2007 with Loose Change. By 2008 it was already on the rocks, and by 2010, 2011, with the imposion of the CIT guys and their friend Bobby caught in sockpuppet drag.

    Now its just Richard Gage living off his nonprofit and how long is that going to last?

    It's odd that for someone who claims to be a "truther" as long as you have doesn't see this.
    You are deluding yourself if you think the "movement" is doing anything but shrinking.
     
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    you may see the "movement" exclusively in terms of the organizations that are selling the T shirts & DVDs but there is another factor here and it is VERY difficult to measure and that is the number of people who get it, but are not speaking out at this time, but given the right time, will express themselves.
    and the speaking out, may take any form at all, I'm not talking about a
    "Revolution" more like EVOLUTION of consciousness for humanity.
    The war-lords have had their day, the time of wasting $$$ resources & manpower on war-machines rather than making sure humanity is fed/sheltered ( etc.... ) is drawing to a close, there is a new day coming. Nobody knows the exact time, but its coming.
     
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    They did express themselves. They were in the streets in 2004-2008. They "woke up" realized they were duped, and now they're gone.

    Sounds like you're selling New Age EST bs. Most "truthers" I have known believed they were joining a real activist group pushing for real political change, not a conspiracy ashram spewing watered down Matrix philosophy.

    Did you just admit the "movement" is a bait and switch fraud?
     
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    Your interpretation does NOT alter the facts here.

    Please note that most people have the capacity to see what is going on and indeed to realize that it is VERY heavy. This is like a parent who deep down, KNOWS that their teenagers are being outlaws, pimpin' & dealin' but they want to believe that their kids are really very good.... oops! as with the BIG LIE that was sold to the world at large on 9/11/2001, there is a small group of people on this planet who have not only the motivation, but the means & opportunity to plan & execute operations on this scale ( damn scary stuff, no?) However, We are many and they are few, and we don't need to buy into their games.
    The realization that enlightenment is worth more than all the gold on this planet, will propel humanity to new greatness.
     
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    Bold mine.

    You are contradicting past statements. You say most people"see what is going on". But you've written other places people need to "wake up".

    You claim to have been in the "truth movement" from day one. Then you would know, at least by 2004-2006, the people were being introduced to the movement as a way to stop the Iraq war. NOT as a path to "enlightenment".

    If this "enlightenment" goal was part of truther leader strategy, then you have promoted a bait and switch scam.

    Enlightenment is part of religious belief. 9/11 Truth as pushed on this board and most places on the Internets, is promoted as a valid political movement, backed with so called scientific evidence.

    Either you want real world political change or you want a legion of unquestioning quasi religious devotees. You can't have both.
     
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    do tell, what do you think of this

    an object descending at 64% of the acceleration of gravity
    is exerting only 36% of its weight against whatever is under it.
    Yes or no?
     

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