Do you believe in the Holocaust?

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only fact you present is your logical fallacy. Just because you do not understand or do not believe how it happened does not mean it didn't happen the way history has proven.
     
  2. IDNeon

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    So we believe in things because black metal bands use it?
     
  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, there is evidence of the chambers at Treblinka. They were bulldozed by the Nazi's but recent digs have found the shower tiles and structure and in the approximate location the survivors have outlined. Treblinka was specifically designed to kill Jews.
     
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    So you claim that zyklon b killed jews?

    K.

    How many.

    Where is the gas chambersm
     
  5. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I will provide statistics as soon as you do about diesel gas.

    I never mentioned Holocaust stories, I mentioned records kept by the Nazi's themselves. This you can easily find out in 10 seconds with a quick google search.

    I never said there were millions of witnesses, I said there was eyewitness testimony on both sides which corroborate each other.
     
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    Treblinka supposedly used CO gas, not zyklon.

    http://ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p133_Allen.html

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    So why don't you provide the facts you claim exist so easily available? I already provided proof about diesel exhaust.
     
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    No. I was simply explaining how it wasn't just one poster. It's widely accepted.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Zyklon B was primarily used at Auschwitz. There is a very good film about how this gas came into use under Hoss, with one of his subordinates testing it on Russian pow's.

    After the prisoners were killed with the gas there were incinerators right outside where they would burn the bodies and use the ash for a variety of purposes.

    Once again, this is not secret information, its readily available and has been for decades. You can go to Auschwitz and tour it yourself or look at photographs from Nazi archives and see all this.
     
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    I don't believe your witnesses. Fumes from carbon monoxide or ZyclonB would leak out and kill even the German guards around them.

    Sorry, but this account is more believable:

    Last year, when the Red Army revealed to the world the terrible and abominable secrets of Majdanek, the Germans in Auschwitz began to wipe out the traces of their crimes. They leveled the mounds of the so-called "old" [3] graves in the Eastern [4] part of the camp, tore up and destroyed the traces of the electric conveyor belt, on which hundreds of people were simultaneously electrocuted, their bodies falling onto the slow moving conveyor belt which carried them to the top of the blast furnace [5] where they fell in, were completely burned, their bones converted to meal in the rolling mills, and then sent to the surrounding fields. In retreat were taken the special transportable apparatuses for killing children.

    http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/Pravda020245.html
     
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    The premise of the OP is as stupid as asking if you believe the sun exists.
     
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    Except no gas chamber was ever found and the one crematory could barely burn 2 bodies a day.
     
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    The Nazi's used lots of things to kill Jews. Bullets, Engine Exhaust, Zyklon B. You name it, they tried it. They used engine exhaust at Treblinka. Usually took about 15 minutes.
     
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    So you personally lived through the Holocaust?

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    Primarily. ... supposedly. ... exhaust.

    What about burning bodies? Where are the ash pits? You cant burn bodies with other bodies...not possible.

    Where are the Mass graves?

    Oh and you say engine exhaust at treblinka but someone else says zyklon.

    So which one of you is wrong?

    And diesel exhaust cannot kill you in 15 minutes.

    So are you wrong?
     
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    But they did find the gas chambers.

    You are referring to Fred A. Leuchter and his finding of Prussian Blue.

    His theory was tested and conclusively proven false.
     
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    The survivors say engine exhaust. Also, they have found bones at Treblinka.

    If you don't think you can die in a 100% engine exhaust environment, I suggest you give it a try and let us know the results. Carbon Monoxide replaces Oxygen, you would not be conscious past about 4 minutes.
     
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    Just link to the evidence of actual gas chambers. ...how easy that would be..

    Then let's cross examine the evidence...
     
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    How many bones? 800,000?

    Maybe they had a small camp graveyard for natural deaths?

    And I already posted studies that show diesel exhaust does not replace enough oxygen to knock you out even in 15 minutes. Let alone kill you.
     
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    http://rt.com/news/188848-nazi-gaz-chambers-poland/
     
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    No. For better or worse, I'm much to young to have personally lived through it. But I've personally known people who did, and seen more than enough evidence to say that your premise is as stupid as asking if the sun exists.
     
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    Sobibor supposedly used the impossible diesel gas.

    Are they changing their official story they use for the last 70 years?

    Cross examine the evidence even further?

    Are these the infamous sobibor gas chambers where famous hair cutter and one of the 4 originators of the Holocaust myth said he cut the hair of 2,000 victims in a 6 by 20 foot hallway?

    The same gas chambers where supposedly 200 people were crowded into 10x10ft rooms, apparently crammed in there with a bulldozer.
     
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    You do know that no evidence will change their mind, don't you. Heck if you could take them back in time to see it happening in front of them they would say the entire things was staged or one isolated incident. Attempting to show them the truth is a complete waste of time, they are not looking for the truth and will refuse to see it even if you provide it.
     
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    Are you sure about that?

    Most people say they saw evidence but they didnt.
     
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    even former Holocaust denier David Irving now admits the Holocaust did happen.
     
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    Evidence changed my mind I believed in the Holocaust for 30 years

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    News article please. What evidence changed his mind?
     
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    Clueless, utterly clueless. That would be the content of your infantile post, by the way.
     

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