Do you believe the following statement to be true?

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  1. Turin

    Turin Well-Known Member

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    We need to accept and embrace the principle that sometimes, poor people will die simply for no other reason than they are poor. We cannot help everyone.
     
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    The best answer I can think of is not my own. Many people have echoed, in one form or another, "A society is measured by how it treats its weakest members"

    The origin of this phase likely lies in the book of Matthew (Matthew 25:41-46)

    I'm of the mind that nobody has the right to excess when there are those around them that do not have their basic needs met. Just because you are pro-humanitarianism, does not mean that you are anti-capitalism.
     
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    Turin Well-Known Member

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    I have to agree. I vehemently reject the statement I posted. But it was something I ran across while I was reading in another health care forum. I was wondering what peoples take on it was. I tend to break things down into blunt question format like this, or my question about abortion aka. "do you think women should be forced to give birth against their will" kinda stuff.

    But I read this comment yesterday and it just kind of blew my mind a little. I see that a lot of hits have hit this thread, but you have been the only person to actually reply so far. I guess no one wants to be singled out I suppose.
     
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    Yay a thread full of agreement... That's how circle jerks are started. XD
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But if the people are forced to help how is this a credit to them in the humanitarian department?

    We should start proper NPOs on the issue to provide healthcare to those who can't afford it, voluntarily through donations.
     
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    It's a situation I can never come to an agreement on. I used to say why should people who prosper have to hold the weight of people who don't? At the same time, it's a bit horrible to just turn your eyes from a person living like that.
     
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    Just healthcare? And should or should not the gov offer guarantees to these NPOs to foot the remaining bill should donations not keep them solvent?

    My simple point was a morality point. How do you live with yourself knowing that you have more than you could ever use, even if you tried... while there are still people who can't afford to stay fed?
     
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    It might be true, but it shouldn't be. It's disgusting.
     
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    The lines which are stated in this post is effective and also true in the context of poor people.Poor people born and die without any health and medical care. This topic is quite serious and we need to make some few hard steps in this context.
     
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    I agree, but the post has garnerd very little attention. I assume no one wants to be that dickhead who says "yes"
     
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    No system is perfect. People are going to die because they cannot afford care, or the resources were not available, or a committee decided they were not worth saving (such as the transplant board in a hospital). Thats the way it has been and will be no matter what system we have. This race for the holy grail of health care in which all people receive unlimited care is foolish.
     
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    I am pretty sure that most sane people recognize this. That being said though, for known yet expensive treatments ( such as cancer, heart attack, things like this ) I dont think anyone should be turned away from treatment initially. Sure, we arent going to spend 50 million dollars to cure someone.

    Being poor should not be a death sentence.
     

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