Do You Think The Wall Street Occupiers Have More Of A Purpose Than The **********s?

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Do You Think The Wall Street Occupiers Have More Of A Purpose Than The **********s?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. gregdavidson

    gregdavidson New Member

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    Even though both sides seem to be "less informed" about their purpose for protesting, I believe the Wall Street Occupiers actually have a purpose that MAKES SENSE. Whether you're Republican or Democrat, you can't deny the fact that Wall Street is hugely to blame for the economic problems of our country. These large greedy corporations are the direct cause of the mortgage crisis which lead directly to our economic problems. They're also sending all of our jobs and money overseas which I feel is destroying our country. Instead of rewarding their CEOs for FAILURE, maybe they should use that money to create more jobs in the US.

    On the other hand, the **********s really don't have a purpose. All you hear from them is OBAMA THIS and OBAMA THAT. They don't even know what the f*** they're talking about! All they know is that they HATE Obama for no obvious reason and they want him to become a ONE-TERM PRESIDENT. Does that even make sense? And what's really hilarious is the fact that they want LESS GOVERNMENT. They feel that Republicans are going to cut their taxes and let them keep more of their money. Unfortunately, most of these people don't fall into the class that Republicans actually care about. The Republicans want to bring down the taxes of the rich so their greedy corporate friends that are ruining this country can reward them for supporting failed policies. At the end of the day, the **********s are going to be left with their thumbs up their *** wondering WHAT HAPPENED.

    A DIRECT MESSAGE TO THE **********S: Obama is NOT the reason for our economic problems. All our problems arose during the Bush era! Obama simply inherited a problem that probably would have never happened if Democrats were in charge. Get over your baseless hatred!
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Let's see the purpose of a ********** is to his scrotum engaged in a certain sexual manner.

    Yeah I'd say they have more purpose than the OWS people.
     
  3. kk8

    kk8 New Member Past Donor

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    Tell me...all knowing one. Which of these Core Values from the TEA PARTY do you NOT agree with?

    Core Values
    •Fiscal Responsibility
    •Constitutionally Limited Government
    •Free Markets

    Now tell me why the TEA PARTY shouldn't/wouldn't hold Obama accountable?

    Also, I would like a coherent CORE VALUE list from the Occupy people. Where can I find that?

    And this...

    Please explain how corporations were the DIRECT cause of the morgage crisis?

    Oh yea and this...

    Are our problems solved now, thanks to Obama? And which ones would they be?
     
  4. PatrickT

    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    notice to ********* Gregdevidson: Thank you for you propoganda blurb. Good-bye.
     
  5. Pokerface

    Pokerface New Member

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    OWS people are the parasites of this nation. The majority of them are for socialism and are demanding more freebies.
     
  6. gregdavidson

    gregdavidson New Member

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    Fiscal Responsiblity - How can you have fiscal responsibility when over 500 billion dollars is leaving our economy each year to countries like China? Basically what we're doing is letting money leave the economy and borrowing OUR money back. If you don't borrow that money back then our economy is eventually going to go downhill.

    Constitutionally Limited Government - Lack of government is the reason why we're in this mess. And government is the reason why our country isn't polluted like China and the poor and middle class actually have opportunities to succeed.

    Free Markets - You CANNOT compete with cheap labor. Even if we quit taxing corporations, the labor would still go OVERSEAS. The only way to stop that from happening is to regulate trade and charge high tariffs to countries that are CHEATING their way to the top.

    Wannabe Republicans - The fact of the matter is, most of the Republicans on this forum are "wannabes". They're supporting the party of the "greedy rich" because they think that's going to get them somewhere in life. Either that or the idea of LESS taxes sounds appealing to them. You're NOT going to benefit from Republican tax cuts! Cain wants to bring taxes up on the BOTTOM 46%. Many of the Republicans on this forum actually fall into that category. And Cain also wants to bring up the sales tax from 7% (6% in some states) to 16%. Who is that going to effect? You guys are LOST. You need the BOTTOM to succeed in order for the economy to succeed.
     
  7. botenth

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    But I like the Wall Street crowd much better !
     
  8. dudeman

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    The Tea Party protested on the weekend and with permits. The intention was not to shut down a city or become squatters on private property but simply to make a point.

    More attention should be given to the private property owners that own the land. Have they asked for the removal of these squatters? Did Mike Bloomberg WUSS OUT when his police were supposed to support the concept of the protection of private property? Anyone squatting on my lawn would have been shot by now. When will these PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS exercise their second amendment rights when the police have forfeited them?
     
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    First, it depends on which Tea Partiers you're talking about. (BTW, I consider "**********" to be a very crude way to refer to them. It's down on the level of "*******" and I view people who use both terms similarly--they lack class.)The early Tea partiers were primarily libertarian fiscal conservatives. They were primarily protesting similar things to what the OWSers are protesting--namely the "stimulus" packages of late 2008/early 2009. The later Tea Partiers have been invaded by the social conservatives, and I'm not sure what they are truly for.

    The economy started to go drastically downhill after the democrats took over Congress in 2006. In addition, most of the problems are related to the mortgage debacle, which was primarily due to Clinton era decisions that Bush tried to fix in 2003/2004, (and McCain suggested a fix for in the Senate in 2005) but was blocked by the dems.

    http://americanelephant.wordpress.c...fannie-mae-democrats-blocked-them-both-times/

    Both sides are to blame for the problems. To blame it on either just the democrats or just the republicans is foolish. They share the blame.
     
  10. Ironball

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    Really? That is an amazing statement. You are aware that TEA is actually an acronym? LOL I would venture a guess that every TEA rally attendee knew exactly the "purpose"

    OWS Purpose - Youtube

    No doubt the silly fool Obama was dealt a bad hand...... and yet for a variety of reasons, he has played that hand poorly. At times, even ineptly.
    He has exacerbated the bad situation making it far worse and possibly even insurmountable for those who have to deal with the mess after he is gone.
     
  11. CanadianEye

    CanadianEye Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Get back to me when OWS exposes a false messiah type, over hyped, inexperienced community organizer, inadequately vetted junior senator with a more than dubious past...and crushes him and his party despite the full blown might of the MSM championing him, while simultaneously being rife with unparalled and unsubstantiated hatred towards the TEA Party.

    In two years. Magnificent Messiah 2008 to Mega Mistake 2010. 30 some TEA Partiers actually getting in the game in Washington, 60+ second largest caucus in just one freaking year.

    And your message here is Blame Bush? Really? Anyone still chanting that stagnant soundbite, is aptly placed screaming entirely in the wrong direction carrying an Obviously We're Stupid sign.
     
  12. Sunkissed

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    "On the left side of the street we have a liberal sidewalk and on the right side of the street we have the conservative sidewalk.

    A person walking on the conservative side trips on a crack in the sidewalk and falls down sustaining significant injuries. The conservatives gather around the fallen person and start saying how stupid this person is for not watching where they were going. They insult and even kick this person. They do not help and do not care. And blame this person for falling down.

    Same thing happens on the liberal sidewalk. Person trips and sustains injuries. Liberals rush to the aid of the injured person. They call for aid and provide comfort.

    Not that I would say in real life that conservatives would do this, but this is how I believe they think politically.

    Which side of the street do you want to live on?"

    ~ http://occupywallst.org/forum/differences-between-conservative-and-liberal-ideol/
     
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    There is a lot of differences between the OWS and Tea Party. Tea Party focuses on the government and their over reaching while OWS seems concerned with private citizens and pushing the nanny government on them.
     
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    etc.

    a reasonable OP.

    I would say the problems arose in the Reagan era though, and were continued by Republicans and Democrats. In fact the root cause of the economic crisis is capitalism itself.

    "It is enough to mention the commercial crises that by their periodical return put the existence of the entire bourgeois society on its trial, each time more threateningly. In these crises, a great part not only of the existing products, but also of the previously created productive forces, are periodically destroyed. In these crises, there breaks out an epidemic that, in all earlier epochs, would have seemed an absurdity — the epidemic of over-production. Society suddenly finds itself put back into a state of momentary barbarism; it appears as if a famine, a universal war of devastation, had cut off the supply of every means of subsistence; industry and commerce seem to be destroyed; and why? Because there is too much civilisation, too much means of subsistence, too much industry, too much commerce. The productive forces at the disposal of society no longer tend to further the development of the conditions of bourgeois property; on the contrary, they have become too powerful for these conditions, by which they are fettered, and so soon as they overcome these fetters, they bring disorder into the whole of bourgeois society, endanger the existence of bourgeois property. The conditions of bourgeois society are too narrow to comprise the wealth created by them. And how does the bourgeoisie get over these crises? On the one hand by enforced destruction of a mass of productive forces; on the other, by the conquest of new markets, and by the more thorough exploitation of the old ones. That is to say, by paving the way for more extensive and more destructive crises, and by diminishing the means whereby crises are prevented. "


    Marx and Engels
    Communist Manifesto
     
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    Yes, OWS has more of a purpose than the Tea Party.

    The Tea Party wants to save America, OWS wants to destroy it and replace it with State Socialism.
     
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    Ha! Killer sense of humour! **********s saving America, what next? Billionaires for Welfare?
     
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    LOL,,,, Now they may be raped while down, or someone may steal your IPOD while you're knocked out, or spat at because you failed the cause of the sheep of the OWS.
     
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    A DIRECT MESSAGE TO THE D BAGGERS. Bush and the Republicans when they had full control gave you 52 months of full employment, three years of declining deficits and growing revenues. YOU GUYS got control and look what happened. And Obama was a full voting member of that Democrat Congress. And then you took over ALL of government and instituted your policies and made things 10 times worse.

    You own this not Bush.
     
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    I think OWS has the goal of socialism. I think the majority of them are parasites who want uncle sam to pay for everything so they can sit around and sing hippie songs and smoke weed all day. OWS is a joke!!!
     
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    Just to let you guys know the TRUE purpose of this poll is to determine how many more Republicans there are on this forum than Democrats. At this moment it's about 4-1.
     
  22. gmeyers1944

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    President Obama made the problems worse. George Bush was president until 2009 but the Democrats controlled congress starting in 2007. That is when the problems started.

    I think that the occupiers are blaming the wrong people for the economic ills today. The people to blame are the politicians (like FDR) who make promises that they know some day will be impossible to keep. Bernie Madoff did the same thing that social security has done since its inception. It is a ponzie scheme. I am a Social Security recipient. It is going broke. Too few people are supporting too many recipients. Younger people should have a better place to put their retirement money.
     
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    Oh please, let me fix your analogy

    Liberal side, guy trips, everybody screams, saying if there were more government this trip would have never happened, goes to hospital, expects everyone else to pay his bills, sues sidewalk owner, and blames the conservatives.

    Conservative side, guy trips, someone calls 911, guy goes to hospital, and actually pays his own hospital bill.
     

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