Do you trust Joe Biden or Trump more?

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Do you Trust Biden or Trump more?

  1. Trump

    16 vote(s)
    47.1%
  2. Biden

    7 vote(s)
    20.6%
  3. No government official

    11 vote(s)
    32.4%
  4. Undecided

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sadly, I would not be surprised, if you were representative of the average GOP voter-- Trump is the only candidate with a record, as a leader? Did you not know that Nikki Haley, was South Carolina's Governor? Elected in 2010, and re-elected in 2014-- though leaving in 2017, to be U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. And have you forgotten that Chris Christie spent 8 years as governor of New Jersey (2010- 2018 )?

    Mike Pence
    , by the way, served a term as the governor of Indiana. And, of course, Ron DeSantis is the current Florida governor, serving his second term.

    So those four do all records, that can be used to judge them.
     
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  2. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    I like Haley will watch her. Don't like Christie or Pence and DeSantis I'm undecided. He's the one being pushed and I still have to wait and see.
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    I will partly agree with you, in that Biden has been more liberal than I'd expected, in numerous instances. But there are also numerous examples, when I would've liked to have seen him be more liberal, but in which his moderate impulses, carried the day.

    For instance, when he gave back
    many of his legislative accomplishments, and rescinded some of his Presidential orders/administration policies, just to get Republican House members to agree not to risk our defaulting on our obligations, particularly on servicing our Debt. That seemed far more conciliatory, than necessary. But it is in keeping with the much more sincere effort, Joe has put into trying to work with Republicans, knowing that this would require him to blunt his initiatives, than have they, into compromising, in order to work with him.

    Also, the hash marks have changed, for many Dems, as to where on the field of impropriety, stands the rigged Supreme Court. While it would have been a far left position, for Biden to have favored changing the structure of the Supreme Court, when he first came to the White House, I believe that step, now has much more support among moderate Democrats-- both politicians, and citizens. Yet, Biden has made clear that, in his second term, he would be against any Court changes. This is a position in line with conservative Dems, like Joe Manchin.

    So-- while you hadn't even given your own examples, of the Biden policies you see as (radically left?) "full liberal"-- it seems that you are perhaps cherry picking issues, in your mind, and not evaluating the full record.




    EDIT: I see, in another post, that you do cite some complaints with Biden's actions; but how the hell do you think he is forcing electric cars, on us all? Also, what is it, exactly, you are implying about a power plant, and why is that such a notable thing, upon which to focus your sense of grievance?
     
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  4. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trusting a politicians reveals gullibility on our part; not trustworthiness on the politicians part.

    An honest politician, a generous lawyer, and Santa Clause see a $100 bill on the ground. Which one pickes it up?
     
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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Your President is not a crook!" Richard (tricky Dick) Nixon. "I'm honest!" Joseph (sleepy Joe) Biden.
     
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    19Crib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love the fantasy of polling as if your wishes mean anything.
    Your choices are determined by your views based on the views of corporate media, and your voting choices are between candidates who have the current administration's blessing and thus, excusal from DoJ prosecution.
    I voting for Trump because he is fight back!
     
  7. JohnHamilton

    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

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    I voted for Trump because he's a capitalist.

    There is a guy who is openly communist on these boards. He's called Biden, "The greatest president in history." That pretty well sums it up. The communists like Biden.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are actions both liberals and conservatives want, like
    rationalizing our health care system which costs twice as much
    as anyone else's, per person relative to GDP.

    It makes a fortune for the health insurance industry, and
    a maze of complexity and expense for everyone else.

    Liberal and Conservative aren't the only parameters,
    there's also waste and corruption.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I'm a bit upset. I just got charged for something
    from 2 1/2 years ago. Not under last year's plan, but
    the one I was in before that, which has closed.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Instead of subsidizing our companies, it is an added cost
    for each worker, which can then be shed by moving the
    jobs overseas and giving the worker some stupid govt
    funded job in some govt funded company, and then
    creating nothing we can use or sell.
     
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    In my opinion... the actions by Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau have proven
    that Joe Biden cannot be trusted at all. Everything that Biden and Trudeau have been doing is to prepare Americans for the
    Biden Digital Currency and everything that Trudeau has done is to prepare Canadians for whatever similar version of this that it is that he and his Liberals have planned for us.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...y-does-this-scare-you.604753/#post-1073792268

    Biden Digital Currency, does this scare you?






     
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  12. Oh Yeah

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    Reagan said it best. " The nine most feared words from a politician are "I'm from the Government; I'm here to help you"
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Strange when disaster hits everyone has their hand out for the government they apparently hate.

    I think Reagan was one of the worst things to happen to this nation in terms of economic policy.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Trust a politician? I shouldn't have to answer that.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I don't trust Biden, but it is difficult to find anyone more untrustworthy than Trump. He stands apart.
     

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