Do you want to hear a politician tell the truth?

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Do you want to hear a politician tell the truth?

  1. No, people who lie get elected but people who tell the truth get locked up.

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  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is the role of diplomats to tell the truth during negotiations as otherwise they would
    all be wasting their time.

    The role of politicians is to corral the public and get their fervent support for whatever
    evil thing they want done, or in some instances a politician might want to make America
    great or something, but usually the objective is to destroy some other country.

    Here is RFK jr. telling it without spin or lies, and you may hate it, but it is short, and the
    interviewers didn't like the truth either perhaps because they aren't used to it:

     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In this interview RFK jr. explains how the war in Ukraine started and who did it.

    The Military Industrial Complex (MIC) supports the Biden Administration and
    therefore broadcasts an alternative reality in which Russia started the war
    and therefore however the war works out, the Biden Administration has
    no responsibility for it, and no responsibility for the costs either because it
    didn't choose to incur them.

    If we win, well, Biden will get the credit, and rightly so because he did
    start the war.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It has taken a while but I finally got a little truth out of the Internet.

    I used goduckgo

    and typed in the date Kyiv began a fairly heavy bombardment of
    Donetsk, and there is was, the correct date a vehicle was destroyed
    by in incoming artillery shell - Feb 19th 2022.

    Joe Biden told the entire world the violence was started by Russia
    on Feb 24th without provocation, without justification, but
    as people who had followed the conflict over the previous year
    were aware, the shells had been coming in from October 2014,
    and 14,000 civilians had already been killed by the date of the
    claimed invasion by Russia, which moved forces in only after
    warning the US and NATO that he would, and only when the
    shelling got a lot worse.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The text is heavily anti Russian, but the date is there and it
    contradicts the garbage Joe has been speaking.

    Goduckgo Feb 19 2022.png
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the gumph said on Feb 19th was true, about Russia starting the conflict then,
    then why does Joe claim on Feb 24th very clearly that Russia had begun
    a brutal assault?


    Here is Joe's speech.

    [President Biden Holds a Press Conference Feb 24th 2022]

    "Sorry to keep you waiting

    The Russian military has begun a brutal assault on the people of Ukraine without provocation, without justification, without necessity.
    This is a premeditated attack
    Vladimir Putin has been planning this for months as I've been saying all along. He moved more than 175,000 troops, military equipment into positions along the Ukrainian border. He moved blood supplies into position and built a field hospital which tells you all you need to know about his intentions all along.

    He rejected every good faith effort the United States and our allies and partners made to address our mutual security concerns through dialog to avoid needless conflict and avert human suffering. For weeks - for weeks, we have been warning that this would happen. And now it's unfolding largely as we predicted. In the past week, we've seen shelling increase in the Donbas, the region in eastern Ukraine controlled by Russian-backed separatists. Rus- -- the Russian government has perpetrated cyberattacks against Ukraine. We saw a staged political theater in Moscow -- outlandish and baseless claims that Ukraine was -- Ukraine was about to invade and launch a war against Russia, that Ukraine was prepared to use chemical weapons, that Ukraine committed a genocide -- without any evidence. We saw a flagrant violation of international law in attempting to unilaterally create two new so-called republics on sovereign Ukrainian territory. And at the very moment that the United Nations Security Council was meeting to stand up for Ukraine's sovereignty to stave off invasion Putin declared his war."


    And yes, I am well aware that lies taste better than truth.
     
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    I got it wrong, the search engine I used was DuckDuckGo
     

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