Doctors who say we're being lied to

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  1. Scott

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    I've seen quite a few videos in which a doctor says things that contradict the official story. I wish I'd saved all of them. Here's one I just came across.

    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...5/michael-yeadon-pfizer-coronavirus-scam.aspx


    I came across that while reading this.
    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/...ments-plan-to-track-covid-vaccine-recipients/

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender_category/covid/


    Here's another.

    Calif. doctor successfully cures 1,700 COVID-19 patients




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    https://blogs.mercola.com/sites/vit...verse-reactions_1920_-to-covid19-vaccine.aspx
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    If you start hearing about “immune responses” that many people have in conjunction with the COVID-19 vaccine, be aware: This is the new name for adverse reactions. In other words, the COVID-19 vaccine no longer has “adverse reactions” but, rather, the bad side effects you feel — some of which could be very serious — are now called “immune responses.”

    This information was buried at the bottom of an article by CNBC in connection with the news that 10% to 15% of vaccine recipients will suffer “significantly” noticeable” side effects. Some health officials are concerned that the connotation of “side effects” and “adverse reactions” may be off-putting to the public, so in an attempt to reprogram how you think about the side effects, one health practitioner suggested changing the definition of “adverse reactions” to “immune response.”

    The term “immune response” should be used even if what you’re feeling is bad enough for you to stay home from work, they said. Health officials also admitted they have no idea whether there are any long-term adverse reactions to the vaccine such as delayed autoimmune disease or other safety concerns.
     
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  2. Scott

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    Here's something else. I'll post the whole thing in case the link stops working.

    https://gbdeclaration.org/

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    The Great Barrington Declaration


    The Great Barrington Declaration – As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.

    Coming from both the left and right, and around the world, we have devoted our careers to protecting people. Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health. The results (to name a few) include lower childhood vaccination rates, worsening cardiovascular disease outcomes, fewer cancer screenings and deteriorating mental health – leading to greater excess mortality in years to come, with the working class and younger members of society carrying the heaviest burden. Keeping students out of school is a grave injustice.

    Keeping these measures in place until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed.

    Fortunately, our understanding of the virus is growing. We know that vulnerability to death from COVID-19 is more than a thousand-fold higher in the old and infirm than the young. Indeed, for children, COVID-19 is less dangerous than many other harms, including influenza.

    As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity.

    The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection.

    Adopting measures to protect the vulnerable should be the central aim of public health responses to COVID-19. By way of example, nursing homes should use staff with acquired immunity and perform frequent PCR testing of other staff and all visitors. Staff rotation should be minimized. Retired people living at home should have groceries and other essentials delivered to their home. When possible, they should meet family members outside rather than inside. A comprehensive and detailed list of measures, including approaches to multi-generational households, can be implemented, and is well within the scope and capability of public health professionals.

    Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. Simple hygiene measures, such as hand washing and staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone to reduce the herd immunity threshold. Schools and universities should be open for in-person teaching. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.

    On October 4, 2020, this declaration was authored and signed in Great Barrington, United States, by:


    Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations.

    Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases.

    Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.

    SIGN THE DECLARATION
    Co-signers
    Medical and Public Health Scientists and Medical Practitioners
    Dr. Alexander Walker, principal at World Health Information Science Consultants, former Chair of Epidemiology, Harvard TH Chan School of Public Health, USA

    Dr. Andrius Kavaliunas, epidemiologist and assistant professor at Karolinska Institute, Sweden
    Dr. Angus Dalgleish, oncologist, infectious disease expert and professor, St. George’s Hospital Medical School, University of London, England

    Dr. Anthony J Brookes, professor of genetics, University of Leicester, England

    Dr. Annie Janvier, professor of pediatrics and clinical ethics, Université de Montréal and Sainte-Justine University Medical Centre, Canada
    Dr. Ariel Munitz, professor of clinical microbiology and immunology, Tel Aviv University, Israel

    Dr. Boris Kotchoubey, Institute for Medical Psychology, University of Tübingen, Germany

    Dr. Cody Meissner, professor of pediatrics, expert on vaccine development, efficacy, and safety. Tufts University School of Medicine, USA
    Dr. David Katz, physician and president, True Health Initiative, and founder of the Yale University Prevention Research Center, USA

    Dr. David Livermore, microbiologist, infectious disease epidemiologist and professor, University of East Anglia, England

    Dr. Eitan Friedman, professor of medicine, Tel-Aviv University, Israel

    Dr. Ellen Townsend, professor of psychology, head of the Self-Harm Research Group, University of Nottingham, England

    Dr. Eyal Shahar, physician, epidemiologist and professor (emeritus) of public health, University of Arizona, USA
    Dr. Florian Limbourg, physician and hypertension researcher, professor at Hannover Medical School, Germany

    Dr. Gabriela Gomes, mathematician studying infectious disease epidemiology, professor, University of Strathclyde, Scotland
    Dr. Gerhard Krönke, physician and professor of translational immunology, University of Erlangen-Nuremberg, Germany

    Dr. Gesine Weckmann, professor of health education and prevention, Europäische Fachhochschule, Rostock, Germany

    Dr. Günter Kampf, associate professor, Institute for Hygiene and Environmental Medicine, Greifswald University, Germany

    Dr. Helen Colhoun, professor of medical informatics and epidemiology, and public health physician, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

    Dr. Jonas Ludvigsson, pediatrician, epidemiologist and professor at Karolinska Institute and senior physician at Örebro University Hospital, Sweden
    Dr. Karol Sikora, physician, oncologist, and professor of medicine at the University of Buckingham, England

    Dr. Laura Lazzeroni, professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences and of biomedical data science, Stanford University Medical School, USA
    Dr. Lisa White, professor of modelling and epidemiology, Oxford University, England

    Dr. Mario Recker, malaria researcher and associate professor, University of Exeter, England
    Dr. Matthew Ratcliffe, professor of philosophy, specializing in philosophy of mental health, University of York, England

    Dr. Matthew Strauss, critical care physician and assistant professor of medicine, Queen’s University, Canada
    Dr. Michael Jackson, research fellow, School of Biological Sciences, University of Canterbury, New Zealand
    Dr. Michael Levitt, biophysicist and professor of structural biology, Stanford University, USA.
    Recipient of the 2013 Nobel Prize in Chemistry.

    Dr. Mike Hulme, professor of human geography, University of Cambridge, England

    Dr. Motti Gerlic, professor of clinical microbiology and immunology, Tel Aviv University, Israel

    Dr. Partha P. Majumder, professor and founder of the National Institute of Biomedical Genomics, Kalyani, India

    Dr. Paul McKeigue, physician, disease modeler and professor of epidemiology and public health, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
    Dr. Rajiv Bhatia, physician, epidemiologist and public policy expert at the Veterans Administration, USA

    Dr. Rodney Sturdivant, infectious disease scientist and associate professor of biostatistics, Baylor University, USA
    Dr. Salmaan Keshavjee, professor of Global Health and Social Medicine at Harvard Medical School, USA
    Dr. Simon Thornley, epidemiologist and biostatistician, University of Auckland, New Zealand
    Dr. Simon Wood, biostatistician and professor, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

    Dr. Stephen Bremner,professor of medical statistics, University of Sussex, England

    Dr. Sylvia Fogel, autism provider and psychiatrist at Massachusetts General Hospital and instructor at Harvard Medical School, USA

    Tom Nicholson, Associate in Research, Duke Center for International Development, Sanford School of Public Policy, Duke University, USA
    Dr. Udi Qimron, professor of clinical microbiology and immunology, Tel Aviv University, Israel

    Dr. Ulrike Kämmerer, professor and expert in virology, immunology and cell biology, University of Würzburg, Germany

    Dr. Uri Gavish, biomedical consultant, Israel

    Dr. Yaz Gulnur Muradoglu, professor of finance, director of the Behavioural Finance Working Group, Queen Mary University of London, England
     
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    That so much censorship is applied against the whistleblowers demonstrates by itself that the Covid Narrative told by MSM and Fauci cannot be true.
     
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    WOW, if it's published in brighteon it must be true. Is it possible to go any lower??
     
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    I look at it this way. If you are under 70, your chances of surviving from WuFlu are ~99% If you are under 60, that goes up to around 99.2%. If you're under the age of 35, it goes up to over 99.98%. Moderna says their vaccine is around 95% effective. And Pfizer says the are "over" 95% even though their original claim was ~ 90%. So, ~ 5% of the population or 15 Million Americans will still get the virus, even if they get vaccinated.

    So far, absent the vaccine, ~18 million Americans have contracted the virus, of which ~ 232K have died. Or, less than 2%. Of which roughly 85% were over the age of 65. And of which only something like 6% didn't have co-morbidities.

    These are just the raw numbers, so far.

    My problem is this. Fauci is the mad ghoul he is, not because he "cured" anything, or otherwise "stopped" the spread of AIDs. Because he didn't, nor has he. He simply took the course that "treatment" was vastly more lucrative than actually finding a vaccine. Had his career history dictated his preference, management treatments would have been his preference. Not a cure. Not a vaccine. These are the hard truths about a guy who fundamentally is a bureaucrat, and not an effective epidemiologist.

    The media, and frankly democrats seem to be hugely conflicted here. They certainly seem to luv them some tyranny. And now there is a vaccine, all you hear are reports of horrible side effects, and fear of needles, etc. Why do we suppose that is?
     
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    You prefer MSM it seems. That's very cool--believing a gang of known liars.

    The most effective form of propaganda is by omission. This story and many others will be omitted from the "news" you like.
     
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    Yeah, MSM doesn't do much for things like fake moon landings, flat earth, pizza gate, Qanon, religion, deep state and other 'stuff'.
     
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    MSM is great for weather reports.

    The rest of the stuff is corporate and government propaganda, and many times there is no difference between the two.
     
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    Thanks Dennis

    We should show this video to all the policemen we know. Once things are so clear that the people who protect the politicians and enforce their laws can see the lies, the people in charge will be finished.
     
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    If I made a video claiming Lizard people were impregnating women with demon sperm would you believe that too?
     
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    I'm not basing my opinions on what he says alone. What he says is consistent with my experience. He just did a good job of articulating it.

    I've always been very hesitant to use use David Icke's videos in my posts because of what he says about reptilians, etc.
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...466F7AB1C3F87985F6C5466&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

    I've always thought he was part of the controlled opposition. This video is about that. Start watching at the 7:20 time mark.

    provocateurs,shills and disinfo agents



    A tactic that the government seems to be using is to have someone agree with the most clear-minded members of truth movements and then say silly things such as the Earth is flat, etc. That discredits the truth movements. David Icke has said some pretty whacky stuff but in this case he's agreeing with the most clear minded members of this truth movement. I hope he doesn't start talking about lizard people later.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    “The government makes them”

    and how, pray does it do that?

    The real truth is that many of these TWONKS have terminal FITH syndrome
     
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    Really? Show this lunatic's video to the police? So he claims the virus is fake? He also claims the world is run by shape-shifting reptiles and the Moon is a giant spaceship. Stick him in the ICU ward at any hospital without a mask on.
     
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    I didn't like his saying the virus was fake either. I'd like to ask him exactly what he meant by that. If he meant that it didn't exist, he's obviously wrong. Everything else he said was right on though. Maybe he meant that the scenario we're being told is wrong. I'd like to hear him clarify that.

    It's obvious to the viewers that you're not basing your response on what I actually said. I've thought for a long time that David Icke was part of the controlled opposition. That's why I never cite him even though a lot of what he says is right on.
     
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    That is his main point! His arguments are complete conspiracy bullshit.

    You don't speak for the "viewers"!

    No, he is part of the idiotic conspiracy movement.

    Barely a single thing this man says is "right on". He is painfully inept with his sources, takes fake news as read, has a whole portfolio of failed predictions and aligns himself with the world's worst cranks. He is one of the main reasons that social media is full of conspiracy garbage.

    Give me 5 things that are from "a lot of what he says is right on".
     
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    You're seeing what you want to see. He might mean that the effects are being exaggerated.

    It spreads very rapidly but it only kills one in a thousand people who get infected and they are generally elderly and people with weak immune systems. It's difficult but possible to isolate those people from the rest of the people who'll just get a few symptoms or serious symptoms or no symptoms until herd immunity is reached with less extreme measures than have been used.

    You know what the theory is. You're playing dumb. He's saying the same things these other people are saying.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/this-expert-explains-the-current-situation.583453/

    This is from post #2. These are the words of doctors.

    I made it clear that I don't really trust David Icke. A member of the controlled opposition will give a speech that's ninety five percent consistent with what the truthers say and throw in a few silly things or ambiguous things to discredit the movement. It's very possible that he meant that there was no virus. If that's the case, he's wrong and this speech of his discredits the truth movement. People in the real truth movement say that there's a virus and it's killed a lot of people.
     
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    You are a joke.

    So what. His opinion is probably as bad as you can get based on reason and reality.

    Absurd! One in a thousand?

    COVID-19 pandemic death rates by country - Wikipedia

    People like you should be kept away from the internet! YOU are part of the problem, not the solution. You seem to think that everyone who goes into hospital unable to breath actually dies!

    It isn't a damn theory! It is a butt sourced pile of ignorance.

    As opposed to actually being so.

    How about that, conspiracy theorists all spouting the same cherry picked horseshit.

    "You're seeing what you want to see." And worse, ignoring consensus that is considerably stronger and better researched.

    He isn't controlled opposition, as if you deluded people need such a thing! He is a weird crank who predominantly leads many like you by the nose.

    The "Truth Movement", probably the worst possible description for you and the myriad of people who place themselves within it. Barely able to agree on anything, the "truther" consensus is only that "we are being lied to" and almost everything is on the table. Social media has become the equivalent of a cesspool of distrust with a single inaccurate post going viral within seconds. My personal thought is that the human race is done for, the asylum is slowly but surely taking over.
     
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    Scott / Cosmored - About Icke:- Give me 5 things that are from "a lot of what he says is right on".
     
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    You're playing dumb. He's in agreement with the theory put forward by these two women. I'm not going to jump through any of your hoops.

    THE BEAST SYSTEM & COVID-1984: CATHERINE AUSTIN FITTS & DR. SHERRI TENPENNY
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/3sNBdGAIonJw/


    If you watch the above video and these two also, you'll have a good understanding of the truthers' position. The viewers can decide for themselves. Your rantings don't debunk what they say.

    'There Are Fates Worse Than Death' - Catherine Austin Fitts Exposes the Injection Fraud
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Catherine+Austin+Fitts&&view=detail&mid=9ACB3FC7906D4A52C5889ACB3FC7906D4A52C588&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=/videos/search?q=Catherine+Austin+Fitts&go=Search&qs=ds&form=QBVDMH

    Catherine Austin Fitts – Planet Lockdown
    https://thewallwillfall.org/2021/01/07/catherine-austin-fitts-planet-lockdown/
     
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    Translation: You made a statement and were lying. You can't back it up so chuck more spam at this thread.

    No. I will have the same understanding I already have of the idiotic conspiracy theory position. Truth seekers assess all the evidence, that completely discounts you from any subject and most of the useless people you follow.

    The mystery "viewers" who never turn up to support you!

    I'm not ranting and they don't say anything that stands up to honest scrutiny. That's why you believe it.

     
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    The Conspiracy Theorists Were Right; It IS a "Poison-Death Shot"
    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-co...is-a-poison-death-shot/?showcomments#comments
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    So, it’s the double-whammy. On the one hand, the booster will perform largely like the original vaccine, penetrating cells and forcing them to produce spike protein which, in turn, generates blood clots and leaky blood vessels. And, on the other, the newly-produced S proteins trigger a damaging immune response in which the complement system attacks and destroys the cells that line the inside of the blood vessels. Every additional booster will intensify this process weakening the vascular system and increasing the clotting. If the Doctors are correct in their analysis, then we could see a sharp uptick in all-cause mortality in the heavily-vaccinated countries in less than a year. Cardiac arrests are already rising.
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    Wow!!!!!

    All of this leads us at least one or two steps closer to what is advocated by Brother Alexis Flavian Bugnolo from Rome.







    Courage and Cowardice




    On the other hand this all reminds me of a statement that I first heard from the local high school film class teacher: "A film devoid of conflict is boring, (R. W.)."

    If a group of high school or university level film students figured out a way to use all of this to create jobs for several dozen of their friends and / or family members at the same time that they decreased the level of hostility and division that the extreme approaches to this are generating..... then those young people might just be able to create themselves a first step in a career in film production?????
     
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