Does Biden have more wars than he wants?

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Does Biden have more wars than he wants?

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  2. No

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  4. We should exit Joe's war in Ukraine

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  5. We should not be fighting in the Middle East

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  6. WTF we accept that Taiwan is part of China, so why are we there?

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  7. Defending the United States should be on our 'do list'

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  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    “We’re the United States of America for God’s sake. The most powerful nation in the history of the world,” the president told Scott Pelley in a 60 Minutes interview set to air on Sunday night.

    “We can take care of both of these and still maintain our overall international defence. We have the capacity to do this and we have an obligation to, we are the “essential nation” to paraphrase the former Secretary of State. And if don’t then who does?”
     
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    ??? Very odd question and the options are quite lacking. The answer is Biden needs a war before the election to counteract his numbers. For those of you unable to read between the lines this is already in the works. I'm sure the Russians are likely well aware of this already unless their intelligence agencies are much less competent than their tradition would indicate.
     
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    No. Something in Asia would be nice.

    Maybe Philippines will cooperate and attack the Chinese?

    Or the MSM could raise the profile of whatever we are doing in Myanmar?
     
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    The stuff Trump nation makes up!
     
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  5. yangforward

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    With the Philippines on our side we are sure to win!

    And we don't have any reason to attack the Chinese, but
    that didn't stop us attacking Vietnam, or Afghanistan, or
    Iraq, or Syria, or Lebanon, or Libya.

    Then again it didn't stop us losing those wars either.
     
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    I suppose zero wars it "more" than negative 1 war, but the question seems clueless, since we are in face not fighting any wars.

    Helping Ukraine is a small price to pay to avoid fighting a war of out own.
     
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    The U.S. didn't start those wars or any war for that matter.
     
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    I think we could be involved in a few more wars we're also not actually fighting. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Are you kidding? Without the fecklessness of the Biden admin there would be no war in the Ukraine. Without the Department of state and the mic we would be allied with Russia against Islamic craziness instead of them being aligned with china and islamic craziness.
     
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    No.

    LOL. Blame the US when everything else fails.
     
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    I am unclear if there are too many wars for mr Biden. The observation is that given that there are as many as there are, and the man seems inclined to take on more, surely it seems that this is an indication that more war is what Biden believes is the best course.
     
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    Oh for pity sake blaming Biden is not blaming the US. Biden's insane approach to energy policy and his on again off again support for Ukraine both funded and ecouraged the Russian invasion.
     
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    Feel free to blame anyone or anything you want, and for anything, including things which have nothing to do with US. It gets old though.
     
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    Sudan for example. Although, I'm sure we haven't been able to resist playing some small covert role...
     
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    Sure…let’s not fight a war in Sudan too
     
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    I remember my fourth grade teacher telling me wars make us richer, so Biden just can't get enough wars.
     
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    Cool. I’m happy to not be fighting in any wars.
     
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    Us? How much are you making from it?
     
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    The main reason is, "The time for appeasing Putin has come to an end." Much like the Nazi invasion of Poland in 1939. It isn't lost on the peoples of the NATO nations how similar Putin's playbook has mimicked that of Josef Goebbels in 1930's Nazi Germany.

    Hitler conducted a false flag operation burning the Reichstag and blaming it on his political enemies (the communist party) to consolidate control. Putin conducted a false flag operation in 1999, blowing up 4 apartment buildings (killing hundreds of his own people) and blaming it on Chechnya. The 4th bombing was actually announced PRIOR to the last attack by mistake. Shortly thereafter 4 of Putin's colleagues from his days in the KGB were caught planting explosives in this same 4th apartment building. Same chemical makeup as the first 3 bombings, same triggering mechanism. Putin quietly had his colleagues released without so much as a hearing. Putin used the false flag operation to consolidate power and used it as an excuse to invade Chechnya. What followed was a brutal war in which Putin conducted numerous humanitarian atrocities.

    Hitler began making threatening speeches, moving his forces into the Rhineland in violation of the Versailles treaty. Hitler similarly occupied Austria. In 2009 with the war in Chechnya winding down, Putin delivers a scathing rebuke at the NATO summit meeting, threatening to go to war if NATO permits Ukraine and Georgia to enter into NATO. Angela Merkel caved into Putin's demands, agreeing to delay Georgia's and Ukraine's entrance into NATO to assuage Putin concerns. Two months later in complete defiance of his promises to NATO Putin invaded Georgia. Humanitarian atrocities ensued and Obama and NATO turned a blind eye, once again appeasing Putin.

    In 1938 Hitler begins claiming German speaking people living in the Sudetenland are being victimized by the Czechoslovakian government and demands he be allowed to annex the Sudetenland. British Prime Minister Chamberlain and the French once again appease Hitler and allow him to annex the Sudetenland portion of Chzecholovakia with the agreement Hitler makes no further demands for territory. Hitler occupies the Sudetenland, an area of Czechoslovakia vital to the defense of Czechoslovakia. Only months later, Hitler conducts a false flag operation near the Czech border and occupies the entirety of Czechoslovakia. In 2014 Putin begins claiming Russian speaking people living in Ukraine are being mistreated by the Ukrainian government. Putin occupies the border territories of Ukraine and the Crimea. Obama and NATO once again turn a blind eye and appease Putin. In 2022 skirmishes in the Donetsk region occupied in the 2014 invasion of Ukraine are used as an excuse for Putin to invade the entirety of Ukraine. What ensues is a brutal conflict rife with human rights violations and war crimes by the Russians. War against the civilian population of Ukraine is reminiscent of Hitler's persecution of the Jews. Russia subsequently loses over 400,000 men and massive amounts of equipment, getting rolled back towards the Russian border in a humiliating failure to achieve Putin's objectives.

    In 1939 Hitler meets with Stalin and secretly makes plans for the invasion of Poland, agreeing to split the Polish territory with Stalin. Hitler foregoes all pretenses and in direct opposition to his promise to make no further territorial demands invades Poland. France and Britain finally decide enough is enough and declare war on Germany marking the beginning of WWII. Putin meets with China and Iran forming a triumvirate of sorts. China threatens to invade Taiwan, Iran uses its proxies to attack Israel.

    None of these similarities are lost on the peoples of the NATO countries. In recent days numerous nationwide discussions clearly indicate the German and French electorates do recognize the similarities and do not wish to repeat past mistakes of appeasement. Every new generation produces its own tyrants. Putin is our modern day Hitler. The people of France and Poland recognize Putin for what he is. Public opinion in France, Poland, Britain and Germany (as well as Finland, Sweden, and the Baltic states) has rightfully shifted against appeasement. France and Poland begin massing troops and threaten to enter the conflict directly. Biden is in desperate need of any kind of success to turn his poll numbers around. Biden's infighting with Congress over the border crisis has resulted in Congress refusing to support his armament requests to support Ukraine. Biden makes plans to intercede directly in Ukraine under the War Powers Act as soon as the time window opens wide enough to encompass the election. Thus, outmaneuvering Congressional attempts to force Biden to fix the border crisis and hopefully reversing his dismal poll numbers in the process.
     
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    I don't think that the Putin - Hitler analogies work. Hitler arose during the brief interim between the first and second phases of the World War.

    Instead, think of Putin as a combination of Chief of the General Staff Count Franz Conrad von Hotzendorf and Imperial Foreign Minster Count Leopold Berchtold of Austria-Hungary, who were the main proponents of preventative war against Serbia. Think of the Ukrainians as the Serbian Nationalists. Think of the United States as playing the role of Russia, which was backing the Serbs. Think of China as playing the role of Germany which was backing the Austro-Hungarians, although I doubt that the Chinese are as stupid as the Germans were to give Austria-Hungary a "blank check".

    We are in the "Balkan Wars" period prior to WW I, not in the inflation/depression/dictatorship period between WW I & II.
     
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    Lol. I'm not sure Putin could fit into the Goebbels playbook any better. Matters not. It's fixing to get real very shortly. Times up. Appeasement is done. Soon to be game-set-match. Unfortunately, the Russian people are going to pay a VERY high price for failing once again to control their government. I don't know what it is about Russians and their tendency to tolerate tyrants. I hope they don't string up Putin like Mussolini before we get the privilege. I promise you it is coming. I'm well aware of the signs and all indications are it is coming.
     
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    We're not 'helping' Ukraine. Ukraine is losing. If we'd have pushed them to broker a peace back when they still had some offensive capability (and thus bargaining power), they wouldnt have lost as much terrirtory, like Avdiivka.

    What we're doing is hurting Russia, and we're using Ukraine as the glove to hurt them with. The glove is getting hurt even worse.

    If you wanna argue for hurting Russia, then do that. Dont pretend we're doing Ukraine any favors by fighting Russia down to the last Ukrainian.
     
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    It’s telling how many maga are willing turd polishers for Russian propaganda farm fodder.
    And their quisling leader is now getting the Saudis to help him win the election by screwing Americans on the price of oil.
     
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    I already said we are hurting Russia, much like Reagan did back in the day, and of course we are helping Ukraine in the process. They are willing to fight for their freedoms and the West is helping them.
     
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    So does listening to people who believe that everything democrats do only results in lollypops and roses.
     
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