Does calling for the genocide of American Blacks violate university code of conduct?

Does calling for the genocide of American Blacks violate your university code of conduct or rules regarding bullying or harassment?
According to presidents of Harvard, MIT and Penn ‘it depends on the context’ and ‘whether the speech turns into conduct,’ that is, actually killing American Blacks.

Upps, sorry, I got confused, the original question was about genocide of Jews, so the answer ‘it depends on the context’ makes perfects sense.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...idents-contentious-congressional-h-rcna128373

 

I say it should, and I say it does not matter if it is black, white, or Romulan. No group who is affiliated or on campus should make those type of statements and it should violate the code of conduct within that university.

Students csn protest. They can protest against the War with Ukraine, with Israel, with anyone. That is not calling for genocide of anyone. To call for Genocide, it has to be specific, direct, to that group in question. That is the balance.

 

Jeez, misgendering someone will get you expelled.

 

What's odd is no one on campus, or anywhere else, protested Putin's Ukraine invasion, at least I haven't seen any.

 

‘Angry And Heartbroken’: MIT Alumni Challenge Alma Mater Over Response

'A group of Jewish alumni from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology sent a letter this week to leadership at their alma mater asking them to offer a stronger response to the pro-Palestinian protests that have broken out on campus.'

'In a letter to MIT’s board of directors, President Sally Kornbluth, and Faculty Chair Mary Fuller, the Jewish MIT Committee said that they were “sick” and “distraught” by the “state of affairs” at the university and that the campus had been taken over by anti-Semitism.'

“An institution that prizes mathematical rigor and consistency and physical and immutable laws is now wrought by arbitrary and discriminatory double standards. Law-breakers flaunt the law, while law-abiders are shunned and left to fend for themselves,” the letter said.

Or they are Jewish students hiding in the library from rampaging pro-Hamas student mobs while the Administrators pretend that Title VI depends on 'context'.

 

My point was that students should protest. However, the GOP has made the argument that if you protest against Israel in the Israeli-Hamas War, then you are advocating for genocide. That was the question presented to three Ivy League Presidents when they testified. That is why I said that any group that says specifically and calls for the genocide of anyone or any group should not be affiliated with the university. Furthermore, the GOP has also argued, or attempted to through its media outlets, that if you are for Palestinians or a peace deal, then you are either supporting Hamas or are "antisemitic" and that too is wrong and is not within the context of what I said when a group advocates genocide.

Ukraine to most college students is about as far away as Alpha Centauri. So there is no vested interest. But with Israel, and our constant history and ties to the region for the past 9 decades or so, it appears much closer and there is a vested interest in the region by college students these days. Additionally, Palestinians are seen as the "New black" in the civil rights causes. Israel has made mistakes, miscalculated, and contributed to some extent to the problems within the region. No one in that area is innocent of anything and Israeli intelligence is pretty much focused on destroying Hamas and quite frankly don't care if Palestinian or Israeli civilians get killed in the process. All are expendable in the Likuid government. And there are reports that the released hostages had some very choice words towards Netanyahu. This is beyond the anger of being a hostage or grief.

 

The anti war machine only runs when there is a Republican in office.

 

there were Vietnam War Protests when Johnson was president in 1968 and there were protests against US military actions when we were there in the Balkans from 1998 to 1999, and there was war protests when we were invading Libya.

 

Things are more consolidated now. I can't believe you are comparing Vietnam war protests from over 50 years ago to the current era.

 

idk but it sure is anti semitic.

 

You never gave a time frame, and provided an overgeneralized statement when you said

So, I gave you examples of anti war protests when a Democrat was in office. You apparently either did not know or intentionally left it out to make a cheap political point that is neither factual or accurate.

 

I believe the Vietnam war protests started when the military needed more soldiers and were going to draft poor performing college students. They protested the war because they didn’t want to get drafted.

 

Well since I need to set up the parameters for you for any general statement, I'll tailor this response just for you: I'm not including prehistory, most recorded history and most American history; I'm referring to a period beginning from 2009 to now.

In the future, if I make a general statement, please exclude yourself from the replies since you seem to have a chatbot-like inability to understand the difference between general statements and absolute ones.

 

DISPATCHES FROM POST-WEIMAR AMERICA: College presidents expose the moral rot within their institutions.

'Presidents Claudine Gay of Harvard, Elizabeth Magill of the University of Pennsylvania, and Sally Kornbluth of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology repeated carefully rehearsed phrases obviously pre-cleared by lawyers and comms teams.'

'Gay particularly kept restating the same phrases, not even bothering to find different variations. One formulation she clung on to, as though it were a talisman that would save her from the bad men and women that had her pinned on the stand, was, “We are deeply committed to free expression, but not when it violates our policies against bullying, and intimidation, and harassment. Then we have strong disciplinary processes in place.”'

'Gay invoked “processes” in other contexts, too, despite diminishing returns that, by the end of the ordeal, had turned the term into an object of derision.'

“I didn’t ask about your processes,” Texas Rep. Nathaniel Moran spat out at one point. “I am asking for action. How many students have been disciplined? How many have been held to account?”

'Crickets.'

'On questions about expelling foreign students, who have obviously been a substantial part of the anti-Jewish demonstrations, Gay’s magic words were, “Our international students are an enormous source of pride for Harvard and part of our strength as an institution. But we hold those students accountable to the same set of disciplinary processes that we hold all of our students accountable to.” This was repeated again and again, only demonstrating that someone had sat with her and worked out messaging.'

'“Antisemitism has no place at Harvard” was another incantation Gay hurled over and over, despite the enormous evidence showing Jewish students being harassed at Harvard and the school’s long and shameful history of Jew hatred.'

'But her robotic answers notwithstanding, Gay did not have the most horrific answers of the day. That dubious distinction goes to either Magill or Kornbluth. It’s a tossup'.

'Magill’s came in an answer to Rep. Elise Stefanik of New York. Stefanik asked, “Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn’s code of conduct or rules regarding bullying and harassment?” To which the smiling Magill eagerly affirmed, “It is a context-dependent decision.”'

'“That’s your testimony today? Calling for the genocide of Jews is dependent upon the context?” said an incredulous Stefanik.'



America is seeing who these folks are, and it's not pretty.

 

Harvard President: Sorry About That Whole Genocide-Calls-Depend-On-Context Thing



Sorry. Not sorry.

 

Vietnam war protests began in 1966 and grew to 1968 when Johnson was POTUS. Johnson was a Democrat, which goes against the ridiculous argument Lil Mike was making.

Most of the protesters in 1968 already served. It grew exponentially after Walter Cronkite made his report saying the Vietnam War was lost after the infamous Tet Offensive in January 1968.

 

Your statement was open-ended, grossly overgeneralized, and inaccurate to say the least. If it is anyone's fault for not being clear, it was you. All you were doing was trying to make a cheap political shot and are not very good at it.

 

I will say this. All three did a piss poor job when asked that simple question. Either they were deaf, dumb, and stupid to the question or they were trying to overanalyze the question thinking it was a trap question. It wasn't. A simple answer would have been "We will examine our student policy handbook to make sure that even Jewish students, faculty, and staff will feel safe if ever threatened by anyone or any group affiliated or not within our university." That would have been a political answer. The worst was the University of Pennsylvania President, which I expect the Board of Trustees to fire her. The others have apologized and tried to explain their comments in order to keep their jobs. They may, but the University of Penn President needs to go. She was an absolute disaster.

 

I say regardless if it's Jews or Palestinians or Muslims or Christian or Left or Right or Black or White, calling for the genocide of a group should be against any school's code of conduct

 

Congress should have asked the question that this post is titled. Free speech doesn't cover threats and advocating violence. These university folks should know that. What they should have said is that any student proven to be advocating violence against ANYONE will be expelled from the school permanently and arrested for trespassing if they enter the grounds. Their parents opinions be damned. These people should resign or be fired.

These children have been taught that, in any argument whichever party has the darkest skin is the victim, and therefore in the right. In the Ukrainian conflict, both parties are white as the driven snow. They don't have a dog in that fight.

 

I don't really think that the public has a whole has any vested concerns in the Codes of Conduct at private universities. Doesn't matter if that is Harvard allowing or disallowing certain groups, or Liberty University mandating people attend their weekly Convocation or be fined.

 

Just maybe its berceuse Hamas makes it publicly clear, they are for the complete extermination and murder of all Jews.
So if you support Hamas, then you support their claims for genocide.

Hamas Terrorists Have Genocide In Their Hearts. They Say So Themselves
Even in the dumbed down age of social media sound bites, certain realities should serve as a wakeup call to anyone with an IQ in the triple digits who has not imbibed the Kool Aid of the immutably anti-Israel, anti-Zionist extreme political left. One of these fundamental truths is that Hamas is, has always been, and will always be a genocidal terrorist organization.

This year marks the 75th anniversary of the adoption of the Genocide Convention by the United Nations General Assembly. It defines the crime of genocide as any of a number of delineated acts (including murder) "committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such."

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it," reads the Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement, Hamas leaders have reiterated this non-negotiable intention repeatedly over the years. "Palestine is Islamic, and not an Islamic emirate, from the river to the sea, that unites the Palestinians," declared Khalil al-Hayya, a member of Hamas' politburo, in 2010. "Jews have no right in it, with the exception of those who lived on the land of Palestine before World War I." Two years later, Abdel Aziz al-Rantisi, a co-founder of Hamas who was killed in 2004, reiterated the organization's genocidal goals. "By God," he said, "we will not leave one Jew in Palestine. We will fight them with all the strength we have. This is our land, not the Jews' ..."
https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-terr...hearts-they-say-so-themselves-opinion-1834360

 

All they had to do was be decent human beings and answer honestly.

 

'At Harvard, "fatphobia" constitutes violence. But "globalize the intifada" requires context.'

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023...d-will-have-a-new-president-next-year-n597538

'It’s an indefensible position on its face. Calling a man a man is punishable speech if he chooses to object, but calling a Jew a target for murder is free speech?'

'As former managing director of @HarvardHillel I call on alumni, philanthropists, prospective parents and corporate recruiters to boycott @Harvard. Don’t donate. Don’t apply. Don’t hire from Harvard. Boycott, Divest, and Sanction #Harvard. #BDSHarvard'

'There is a certain bizarre fittingness that it is the issue of antisemitism that is likely to bring down Gay because she should have been fired long ago for being an opponent of free speech. That it took defending calls to genocide to bring her down'

'The DEI Queen can’t condemn calls to genocide. What universe are we living in?'



'the much-vilified Harvard grad Elise Stefanik will have delivered the death blow to these moral midgets. She has taken more than her share of insults, including ones aimed at her intelligence. I think we can safely say that she outsmarted the “best and the brightest.”'

 

It was apparently a pretty good cheap political shot since you went full...



...when I mentioned it, which led to a fairly ridiculous deep dive into history when it should have been clear from the context I meant the current era.