Does grape seed oil help prevent Covid 19?

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  1. UntilNextTime

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    Does this help you out?

    I have never been healthier because I refrain from processed meats and their trans fats.
     
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    Process contaminants in vegetable oils and foods
    https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/press/news/process-contaminants-vegetable-oils-and-foods

    Make sure you get your daily dose of glycidol.
     
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    To me processed foods are foods that have things added to it in the factory that were not there naturally. When we cook, we process the food in a manner that we understand and control.
     
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    I didn't start taking the powerful antioxidant, Grape Seed Ex, 27 yrs ago to prevent covid..but I've not had a cold, fliu nor any vaccines for certain in all the 27 yrs....

    And no covid and no jabs and, colds are a covid virus. 19 was given to this current mess.

    Soo, you all decide what you want to believe. I know my history.
     
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    There is no virus, so there's no 'covid'. So the question is moot.
     
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    Only if you combine it with a strong combination of Garlic paste, Turmeric, Chilli, and Curry. Rub well into your entire body surface area
     
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    Did you actually read that article? It is a piece of garbage! The #1 reason they give, that oils are so bad, is because they can make you gain weight. I think this is a bit dubious to begin with, because so much else is involved with that, and the Atkins diet has clearly shown that eating fat, is not what makes a person fat. Regardless, a person like me, who could eat nothing but fat, and still stay trim, can obviously ignore that reason. Curiously, the second reason given is that these fats are bad for our brains which are, themselves, almost completely composed of fat.

    The #2 reason given is because of the beliefs of one particular Doctor, about which--
    I schitt you not-- it says, "Shanahan explains that vegetable oils are the 'brain's worst enemy' because they increase the risk of brain conditions like Alzheimer's and dementia. While she didn't conduct a formal research study to back her claims... " It goes on to say that some later study supposedly does back the claim, but that actual study was of cooking specifically with sunflower & corn oil, at high temperature, because of aldehydes released. But, I pour canola oil on my cereal, instead of milk, and eat it at room temperature, so again, the "research" would have zero application, to how I consume vegetable oils (I never use corn oil, and sunflower would only be for cereals, not for cooking).

    Just like is the case, with others in this thread who condemn all oils, and then talk about the ills of specifically hydrogenated oils-- the advice is meant for people who are being treated (correctly or not) as nitwits, who cannot be expected to remember anything beyond single line advice: oil bad. If course, I avoid hydrogenated oils, like the plague.

    I saw only one, really good point, out of all five, that would apply universally. That is that seed oils are high in Omega 6's, much more than in omega 3's, and having a high proportion of Omega-6 to Omega-3, is associated with inflammation, which does contribute to many adverse health conditions. If course, a solution to this problem would be to eat a lot of fatty fish (which are high in Omega-3 fats).

    This article is indicative of both the problems with much health advice, and the dilemma, of those who dispense it. On the one hand, the nutritional "authorities" often make false extrapolations-- frequently leading to false beliefs, such as, originally, that the most oxidizable, poly-unsaturated oils were the healthiest, and that the most stable oils, saturated ones, were the least healthy-- and overly generalize, in their advice, instead of being more accurate about just what has been shown, and what general assumptions are connected to those specific facts; on the other hand, most people are not interested in all the specifics, and only want simplified, single-line advice, if they want any at all.
     
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    LOL
    I fry everything in bacon grease! yum!
     
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    Good for you. You can have all the glycidol you desire.

    Death by Vegetable Oil: What the Studies Say
    Why Is Vegetable Oil Bad For You? 7 Diseases Vegetable Oils Cause
    The Dangerous Side of Vegetable Oils

    I suppose these are crap too?
     
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    As long as you stay submerged, within it.
     
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    I suppose you have a vast array of knowledge on the subject matter. Aren't we all learning, or are you that arrogant you know all?
     
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    Funny, you mention arrogance, as it is you who admits to be making assumptions. It is not clear, why you would do so. My prior remarks, made it clear that I was responding to the specifics of the article you had linked. And you have even quoted my reply, along with your "suppos(ing)" that I "have a vast array of knowledge on the subject matter," in which I ask, how I could be expected to know if these new articles, to which you provided links, were also "crap," before I have read them. Was it not clear to you, from this comment, that I intended to read the articles, prior to commenting? If you'd understood that much, is it then your position that only someone with "a vast array of knowledge," is capable of reading, understanding, and appraising these articles, which are clearly aimed toward non-experts, to say the least?

    IOW, your remarks seem completely non sequitur, to me. I do appreciate the links, as I always do like to add to my knowledge. But I have heard many make the blanket claim that all seed oils are terrible, without seeing the proof that this is true, in any unqualified sense, as I'd explained, in my critique of the second of your previous article's 5 reasons.

    Did you not even bother to read my reply?

    I guess that shows which one of us thinks he knows too much, to learn anything new.
     
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  14. UntilNextTime

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    Point out my "assumptions"?
    Funny how you don't mention "still learning", this proves your arrogance.
    So you have to be an expert to have an opinion, do you? And what about those experts that are so full of bullshit, you'd listen to them, hey? Would you like examples of imbeciles masquerading as "experts"?
    Did you follow the bouncing ball at all, on how you came to find my post in this thread, did you take the time to read all of the posts, or did you home in on that particular one? Of course not.
    I'm sure you've gone out of your way to learning about vegetable oils, hey?
     
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    I made the mistake of buying some a couple of years ago, and then after I got it home to use as a cooking oil, I looked into it and found it was among the worst, healthwise. So I stick with canola and extra virgin olive oil.
     
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    or using things that use chemicals or high heat to extract things like oil from things like corn, then bleaching it
     
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    What I find interesting is that there's been a downturn in actual grapes you can buy in my corner of the world. As a child, grapes were in abundance with seeds. Now, everything is 'seedless'. Is it because of the health benefits of the grape seed? Big Pharma can't have a healthy population, which would damage their bottom line.
     
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    People don’t like to chew seeds, spit them out, or swallow them. I grow 3 different types of grapes, -red, green, and purple, and they’re all seedless by my choice. I selected them to grow BECAUSE they are seedless and very tasty. Twenty years ago I grew Niagara’s with seeds and regretted it though they are a very tasty grape.
     
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    Mmm, and do you think you've disregarded the benefits of the grape seed, knowing what you know now? Not just the fruit, but the seed itself, look at the killing big pharma makes from it, although they need to modify the chemicals and compounds, as they cannot patent a naturally occurring substance. That's why fresh/real/organic is best, and not as a supplement.
     
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    You know what? It was years ago when I looked into it and now I can’t find any reason to reject it! I can’t figure out why I decided it was a bad idea. It all sounds good now, so forget everything I’ve said cuz now it seems quite beneficial. All I can find for warnings is “make sure it’s cold pressed”. Sorry.
     
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    yep, that is where the dangers of seed oil come in, where they are processed in what looks like a chemical processing plant, dangerous chemicals, high heat, pressure and bleaching out the rancid taste\smell, so people do not know what they're buying
     
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    No need to be sorry. It was your choice you thought was the right thing to do at the time.

    From experience, it is things that happen to you in your life that make you make your choices in what you do or don't do with your health. In terms of what you eat or don't eat. For me, it was changing my diet to do the things that big pharma meds were "supposed" to do. In my case, make things worse and added bonuses.
    The only thing in a tablet I take these days is aspirin/paracetamol, which is rare.
     
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    Yes that is also processing.
     
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    I have no idea what this is, so I'm not sure. Anything that improves your general health is likely to have a small benefit.
     
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    ... I think you'll find that following some compelling evidence recently presented during the Geneva International COVID symposium the general advise was indeed to apply that as you described but whilst standing on a chair with one leg raised and rotated in a clockwise manner whilst raising the arms and waving them frenetically in a windmill fashion whilst singing the Hokey Kokey.....very efficacious...
     

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