Does income inequality decrease opportunity? Debate

Schools are funded based on nearby property taxes, so rich neighborhoods get good schools because they pay more taxes, poor schools get bad schools because they pay less taxes. Rich and poor people do not live side by side, I call bull(*)(*)(*)(*)

 

There are a few exceptions of course, but overall yes thats what im saying. As I said, schools are funded based on property taxes so naturally people who live in poor neighborhoods will get poor schools because they pay a smaller amount of taxes. You think there are heavily underfunded schools in rich neighborhoods? Highly doubtful, it happens in poverty stricken neighborhoods.

 

The school district where my children attend has 52 elementary schools, 23 middle schools, and 19 high schools. Funding for each of those schools is based primarily on enrollment with the same formula used for each of them regardless of whether the area from which they draw is poor, middle, or upper class. That means the per student spending is as close to the same as it can possibly be. What that means is schools that are more upper class has parents that pay more in property taxes yet gets no more money and vice versa. Each district throughout the entire State does the same based on State law. District to district may vary but within districts it doesn't.

Please have a clue before running your mouth about something for which you have no knowledge.

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You're full of (*)(*)(*)(*). I've already explained it once and have an intimate knowledge of what I'm talking about unlike you. I worked in it for 13 years and know exactly how it operate. It may have worked liked you said 50 years ago but not any more.

 

It isn't that there are not any opportunities, but that those opportunities may not always be recognized. How many profesional investers don't miss many opportunities or fail in some opportunities that presented themselves? Only an income can make a difference in some cases.

 

So your answer when people don't take the opportunities they were given is to continue to give them more even if doing so means someone else funds it?

 

Wow, all those CEO's who earn their massive salaries and stock bonuses off the work of hourly employees will be shocked to hear this. Horay for the new world order where benefits are earned by labor and not by managing the labor of others.

 

Apparently someone thinks they do and what you think doesn't really matter. Jealous?

 

Not even remotely comparable........

but thanks for playing........

This is why we make fun of liberals

 

The problem with what has been done to try and alleviate poverty hasn't worked yet the same methods are still being tried. When someone with a low skill level can get as much or more doing nothing as they can earn based on the skills they offer, there is no incentive to work. Why would someone spend 40+ hours/week working when they can get as much in handouts and still have that 40 hours?

 

http://www.ascd.org/publications/ed...qual-School-Funding-in-the-United-States.aspx
"Nearly half of the funding for public schools in the United States, however, is provided through local taxes, generating large differences in funding between wealthy and impoverished communities (National Center for Education Statistics, 2000a). Efforts to reduce these disparities have provoked controversy and resistance."

 

Funding may vary from district to district but within the districts, according to the laws of my State, per student spending is the same. We have wealthier districts and more impoverished districts throughout the State. There are students who, individually, may be poor but go to school in a wealthier district where the spending on them is the same as the wealthier individual in that district and vice versa.

 

I see. The typical poor me argument.

 

It was a joke. Obviously conservatives have no sense of humor.

 

dude, did you miss the bailout of the wealthiest who even got to keep their multimillion dollar bonuses? why the silly false dichotomy.

 

Ah, not so cocky anymore eh? A second ago I was a complete moron, now that facts were presented proving you are wrong, you are a lot more calm

 

When those who don't pay the very taxes you say fund those bailouts, they have no say in how that money is used.

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You proved nothing your arrogant bastard but your arrogance. Typical smartass Liberal that thinks claiming something means proof.

 

Your fallacy of false Cause is duly noted. Capitalism and socialism are not the same. Only socialism provides for the (social) concept of equality for "free".

 

Socialism provides a way for you do nothing, self proclaimed bleeding hearts to take credit as if the money actually comes from you.

 

It only seems that way to the right, due to equality before the law being a social concept and not a capital concept; since then, only those with the most money make the most rules.

 

It's not a matter of how it seems but how it is. I've challenged many like you to do it, if you truly believe one person deserves another person's money, with your own money. The typical parrot response is something to the effect that we live in a society and it's society's responsibility to take care of it's people. That proves what I said that you are only about words not deeds. If you truly cared about people as much as you claim, I wouldn't be forced through taxes to do what you say needs to be done.

Those with more money don't make the rules. Almost half this country doesn't pay income taxes. However, they get to vote for the people that continue to allow them to pay nothing while also voting to force those of us already paying to pay more then (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) when the ones that aren't paying are asked to fund what they've been getting for years. If someone is on social werlfare, they aren't paying the taxes that fund the programs from which they draw. Typical double dippers. Many of them also get back through a tax refund more than they put in that year through things like the Earned Income Credit. Bet you didnt' know that the family of four (2 adults and 2 children) doesn't pay a dime in income taxes until the gross income is almost $47,000. That's twice the poverty level for that size family. They need to be paying their fair share.

 

I believe you may not understand the concepts. The power to Tax, to take from one to give to other, is a power delegated to our federal Congress and acknowledged as a traditional States right.

 

So you won't do it with your own money but will force others to do it your way? Typical do nothing bleeding heart. I bet you think compassion can be shown by how much you support the other guy paying. It would fit your mindset. I bet you think the family making $47,000 or less should also not have to pay income taxes yet get to vote for people who will raise mine. Not surprised if you do. It's how you mother(*)(*)(*)(*)ers operate.

It's you that doesn't understand the concept that while Congress may have the power to tax, they don't have the delegated authority to do it for things which aren't in the Constitution. The power to tax isn't unlimited to fund things which they have no power to regulate, delegate, or hold any authority.

 

We don't need socialism. That's what you don't get.

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That makes you a bigot.

 

Do you despise Nazi's?


Bigot.

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Claiming something? I showed you proof moron.

http://www.ascd.org/publications/educational-leadership/may02/vol59/num08/Unequal-School-Funding-in-the-United-States.aspx
"Most people believe that students do better in well-funded schools and that public education should provide a level playing field for all children. Nearly half of the funding for public schools in the United States, however, is provided through local taxes, generating large differences in funding between wealthy and impoverished communities (National Center for Education Statistics, 2000a). Efforts to reduce these disparities have provoked controversy and resistance."

PROOF, not a claim.

 

Opinion by a biased source is not proof. It's a claim. Where my kids go to school, the poor kids and the rich kids use the same books, desks, have the same teachers, and get the same lessons and it's district wide. No one gets less because they pay less in taxes. They all get the same things.