Does the 2nd protect access to weapons of war? That’s not the question.

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh are you still mad that a bunch of colonial patriots kicked the British out of America? or are you pretending your society is more enlightened because your rulers don't even trust you all to own pocket knives? remind me what institution granted you a doctorate in American Law
     
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    My passport is Irish.
    As for the American war of independence, well of course that happened after all rich slave owners like George Washington could see the writing on the wall after the James Somerset case.
    I don't need a doctorate in American law, but it was ironically an American Dr Nancy Gayer who taught me about the linguistic analysis branch of Philosophy.
     
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    which has almost no relevance to legal issues.
     
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    Whatever the Police can carry to defend themselves, everyone else should be allowed to carry as well.
     
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    philosophical Well-Known Member

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    The meaning of words has no place in law?
    Yeah right.

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    wrong-we have seen gun banners try to reinterpret the second amendment to allow their disingenuous schemes to ban guns by using Linguistics to "prove" that Keep and bear ONLY means a collective military use. that is false of course but it doesn't stop them. what is important is the environment in which the law was created and the intentions of those who passed it-not some linguistic half argument that runs counter to all the other evidence
     
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    philosophical Well-Known Member

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    So the meaning of words are relevant.
    It's simply you don't like that aspect of things.
     
  8. Turtledude

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    I am not the one who is upset with the proper interpretation-the interpretation that every controlling case supports-the interpretation that every major league legal scholar supports and the interpretation which is consistent with the environment in which the bill of rights was created and the sentiments of those who enacted it

    The Gun banner interpretation flies in the face of the constitution, the words of the founders and the environment.
     
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    It's odd that gun banners never seem to recognize that making it about "collective military use" would mean that everyone has the right to have military weapons.

    Gun banners are making arguments that Heller and Bruen should be expanded to cover access to military weapons.
     
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    When you could buy a full fledged ship of the line or even a canon. You can still get a canon. You can get other crew served weapons, as well as tanks, AA guns, etc. it’s not easy. Used to be easier in the ship of the line days.
     
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