Donald Trump denies call for profiling

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  1. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;W-vLjDkPfe8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-vLjDkPfe8[/video]

    While it's true that he didn't say the word "muslim" during his interview with Fox & Friends, it's laughable to suggest he's making a broad statement about cops and suspicion... when viable suspicion is already a level that allows for law enforcement officers to begin investigations, and claiming otherwise is either ignorance or a lie (neither of which are great for someone seeking the Presidency). Now, if he's upset that cops can't use suspicion founded in race, ethnicity, religion & nationality... then he should've just said Muslim. Instead, the "tell it like it is" candidate is afraid to admit what he believes.
     
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    Cops always profile. Israel profiles air travellers successfully. The lib media tacks on extra words like Muslim or racial to make it sound bad.
     
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    What race does Israel profile?
     
  4. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    Why did you say race when you know race isn't their marker?

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    Lib media or the Constitution?
     
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    Constitution tacks on extra words?
     
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    Because CNN who is behind all this fuss is claiming he is defending racial profiling when his comments were in context of looking at how Israel profiles.

    Perhaps research the topic a tad before starting a thread.
     
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    Mike Gallagher is reporting on his morning Talk Radio show that
    CNN had Inserting on purpose the word " Race " and " Racial " in
    quoting Trump's call for Profliling.
     
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    Of course and yet again Trump fell into the trap. By discussing it is makes him look defensive and crap sites like Huffington post are going to have a field day with it trying to spin everything he says.

    This thread is evidence of that.
     
  9. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    lol not surprising.

    Perhaps you should call CNN? I didn't mention racial profiling. Perhaps it's best to realize what medium you're using?
     
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    Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.

    Ahem...

    And like i said..http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/19/politics/donald-trump-racial-profiling/index.html This is where the lie started sites like HP are just running with it.
     
  11. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    Forget race...

    What did he mean, RP?
     
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    What he means is that profiling works and Israel is the example of success when it comes to air travel. Everyone profiles, especially liberals (deplorables) but libs try to make it politically incorrect to be normal.
     
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    Read his quote... Not what another site says he really meant read his quote.
     
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    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    What Israel uses is something we'd call offender profiling (legal), so Mr. Trump's claim that officers are handicapped (and that it must change) is either ignorance or a lie. You pick.

    Assume my comprehension is off. School me.
     
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    What I want to know is who here thinks we should not be profiling ( more suspicious of/ paying more attention to) Muslims entering or living in this country ?

    Second - Does anyone seriously think that the FBI, Police and so on are not paying closer attention to Muslims than to folks who are not ?
     
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    Same old Trump. says something that is actually ambiguous, and let's the public/media fill in the gaps, then can safely deny any of those filled gaps whilst still reaping the media attention on both sides of the statement. You're just falling into the trap again.
     
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    Exactly. Some people insist that our airport security treat the 80 year old Swiss grandma the same as the twenty-something young man traveling from Afghanistan named Ahmed. My admittedly deplorable thinking: pull Ahmed aside for further questions, and leave grandma alone. I know, I know, I must be a bigoted Islamophobic racist, but I'm also a pragmatist that likes doing things that work, and work efficiently. Say what you will, Israeli airports have this stuff down (because they have to have this stuff down), and we'd do well to learn from their success.
     
  18. E_Pluribus_Venom

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    But he isn't being ambiguous. A man that states we should have muslim databases doesn't really get to deny he's for muslim profiling, unless the observer is just an idiot.
     
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    NSA says hello.

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    NSA says hello. Also https://www.aclu.org/other/more-about-fbi-spying

    You are probably being profiled right now.. You will never know it.
     
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    EVERY STINKIN time I was profiled, they were Successful. Cops once profiled some white kids. Let me explain. We said in the back of a ranchero wagon, lets LOOK suspicious. When we passed a cop.

    He pulled us over, JUST FOR ACTING SUSPICIOUS. And lectured us about ACTING suspicious. We were kids out after CHURCH.
     
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    Trump's been successfully trolling the media for quite some time.
    He doesn't even have to spend money. :roflol:
    He's good at it.I thought I knew who the best troll in the world is,now I'm not so sure.
    [​IMG]
     
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    No you're right.

    Let's not look at the guy dressed in rags walking through an upscale neighborhood chanting in arabic while wheeling around a large suitcase with wires sticking out of it.

    That would just be unfair.

    Never mind the dead bodies, price of doing business?
     
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    We're all in a database. You know that right?
     
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    What's wrong with profiling other than it hurts people's feelings?

    My bother, an Italian guy, has one long eyebrow and looks like one of the *911 hijackers, her really does. He gets stopped all the time at the air port and even at Yankee Stadium for the innocent, 'how are you, is everything thing ok?' deal. He laughs it off.

    And if anyone here says they don't profile then I'm calling them out as a liar.
     
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    Profiling is not unconstitutional in the "suspicion" sense. Same with federal law. Can't answer about state law
     

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