Donald Trump indicted on 7 counts in classified documents probe

I expect you are foaming at the mouth right now.

 

The finding was that Biden was guilty but that he was not mentally competent to stand trial. Yet he is mentally competent to be President?

 

No, that wasn't the finding. Unless you think @Bluesguy was the special prosecutor.

 

No. “The finding”, by a biased investigation”. Was there was nothing to prosecute.

 

Yes that was his finding and why he and the WH staff and Dems in Congress and MSM objected si vehemently.

 

Hur can't make a "finding". Not in the sense that a judge can make a "finding". Yet another falsehood.

 

Dumb.

 

Yes he can and did and why Biden and his staff were so pissed about it.

 

Ah thank you. Damn can people research what you said please. Magas have no clue. They have no clue Bill Barr 3 times appointed a special counsel.

They have no clue the precious DC Appeal level decision that rejected what Cannon did and she ignored.

They have no idea of the no. of cases set the precedent for this procedure.

They have no clue when Thomas shot off the mouth to give Canon her opening he did not base his decision on law at all. Nothing he said in his comments discussed case precedent and why suddenly it should now be over-turned.

Magas do not get it. They do not understand that even pro Trump Judges need to be able to show what ground they are creating to ignore previous case law and precedents and said a new standard based on a standard Trump relied on but now only for political reasons wants changed because he has no other legal defence.

It is absolutely improbable the DC Court of Appeal will contradict and undo its previous ruling directly on point allowing this protocol of appointment.

Next we have this current Scotus. The whole point of having AG's appoint special counsel was precisely in those kinds of cases where there would be an appearance of political bias in the President appointing the Judge.

In the case of Jack Smith the President had no control over the AG and the AG's selection process was transparent and this is precisely why M. Garland who appointed him said:

"Based on recent developments, including the former President’s announcement that he is a candidate for President in the next election, and the sitting President’s stated intention to be a candidate as well, I have concluded that it is in the public interest to appoint a special counsel,”

... “Such an appointment underscores the Department’s commitment to both independence and accountability in particularly sensitive matters. It also allows prosecutors and agents to continue their work expeditiously, and to make decisions indisputably guided only by the facts and the law.”

...

“Although the Special Counsel will not be subject to the day-to-day supervision of any official of the Department, he must comply with the regulations, procedures, and policies of the Department."


The very reason was to avoid the appearance of let alone ability of the President or the AG in any way to control or influence Smith.

It was good enough for Barr 3 times to use this procedure when Trump was in office, then suddenly its not?

Trump's claiming Joe Biden control's Jack Smith is a joke when the very Judge of the trial was appointed by Trump and throughout the case had her decisions successfully appealed and removed because of their absolute incompetence in erroneously applying legal appearances.

Cannon did not even try hide her biases to the point where her colleagues repeatedly warned her to clean up her act then she pulled the stunt she did thinking because Thomas made a subjective remark she could use that to ignore the case precedents and previous use of the very same procedure by Trump?

In a nutshell one set of laws for Trump and one for Biden and everyone else.

What I find interesting is how magas just sleep walk into the decision having zero clue.

In a 93 page decision Canon did not once explain why she ignored how Barr used the same procedures and the same procedures were used for Nixon and the courts all those times agreed this was the protocol used to avoid any political appearance of bias by the President.

Of course the DC Appeals Court will overthrow it. No they will not overthrow their past decision approving this protocol to protect against political bias.

For this Judge to have done what she did is past outrageous and there is a reason when Thomas made his comment no other Scotus Judge acknowledged him. They couldn't. He offered to reason to just abandon previous case law and create a double standard.

I say Thomas is the most stunning example of a corrupted Judge in the history of the US. This is a man whose wife lobbied on behalf of Trump and this is a man who accepted a house, financial gifts, vacations from pro Trump supporters. He has and had no business participating in any decision regarding Trump. Those are not just appearances of conflict, those are real conflicts. If any Judge at any other level did not recuse themselves the decision would be successfully appealed and the Judge removed and it would violate their code of Ethics and get them removed from their Judgeship.

Yet Scotus made a decision stating they do not have to follow any code of ethics and conflict of interest rules and can accept as many gifts as they want from whoever they want and if their wife is a lobbyist for the person the Judge is making a decision on, no problem.

Worse still the Chief Justice had a wife flying an upside down flag against Biden and in support of Trum;p at his house and he does not feel that compromised him to sit as an impartial Judge? Think of how outrageous that is. He is saying if his wife is a Nazi and flies a Nazi flag at his home, hey so what that is no reason not to have confidence in him to be impartial.

Its outrageous. Maga cheers on a criminal felon who controls Scotus through direct payments and wants to argue the courts are against him?

Biden is write. Scotus must adhere to a code of ethics including conflict of interest guidelines and a limited 5 year term. I would also add the constitution of the US has to be amended so that never again can a President use the argument he can break laws. It has to be put in the constitution that no President can break any law even if its part of his executive powers. Its up to the courts not Trump or any President to assure their decisions are void of political bias. That can be done by indicating in the constitution certain executive powers are immune but which ones are not.

The reason what Canon did is so outrageous is because she knows Trump had no defence. His illegal actions happened once he was out of office so immunity could not apply. The archive laws could not be any clearer that the documents Trump took did not belong to him once his tenure is over they belong at all times to the people which he has access to only during his elected tenure.

Had Trump apologized and returned all documents there would have been no case but the man openly got caught lying in sworn affidavits he did not have documents he had. He went further and showed them to a crony stating he knew he could not but would anyways and knew they did not belong to him anymore.

Of course she pulled his pathetic attempt. Had she not invented this new double standard and delayed the trial until after the election imagine what a conviction would have meant. Trump would have had to go to jail.

So she stalled, caused many unsuccessful rulings to be appealed to stall proceedings then waited for the Thomas comment as the cue to throw it out.

Magas just go along with it thinking hey a President who is a convicted felon, defames people. is caught lying over and over, has had all his business executives convicted of business fraud, borrowed millions from the Russian mob when he went bankrupt, fudged his property evaluations, is directly connected to political advisors all convicted of crimes and a son in law just before Donny left office goes to Saudi Arabia and is privately given 20 billion. Hey this is the same Trump who took 5.4 million from China, says Taiwan will need to pay the US to defend it and says Putin can do whatever he wants in Ukraine.

 

No, just one. And appointed to investigate and write a report, not prosecute. AND Durham was already a US attorney.
Such strong opinions regarding matters you know nothing about.

 

If he made a "finding" like a judge can, then post the court transcript from the hearing where he made his "finding" public.

If not, it's just an opinion and carries no factual weight.

 

He made one like a prosecutor does in deciding to take someone to trial, prosecutors do that not judges.

 

Ah, so you don’t know what a “finding” is.
You could have just said so. Or looked it up.

 

He made a prosecutoral decision not prosecutors do everyday and it this case the the personnhe wanted to indict could not be taken to trial due to his declined mental capacity. Doesn't require a judge.

 

Sure the target of his politically motivated hack job could have been taken to trial. He just thought he would lose. Self interest guided his decision as well as his inability to please his Republican masters.

 

And then you woke up. Hur has been proven absolutely correct and vindicated else Biden would still be on the ticket.

 

Proven ? How ? Vindicated from what ?
Hur couldn’t make or win his case so he offered up a sound bite designed to slander Biden and resigned. Neither of which has anything to do with why Biden is off the ticket.

 

Hurr wrote that Biden was not mentally fit to stand trial. Why do you think Biden got kicked out as the party nominee? Because he isn't mentally fit.

Spending a few seconds thinking before you post might be a good thing.

 

He had a dead to rights case which he could not take to trial for the same reason the Dems had to get Biden off the ticket.

 

Lol, no he didn't. He's never had a case. They have him dead to rights. Cannon is trying to bail him out, and that will fail spectacularly. And probably get her sanctioned. Again.

 

Of course he did the recording of him discussing the classified docs he stole was enough to convict him. Merely having them warrants a gross negligence and theft at the least.

 

If you understand that, then you will understand why Biden's case is different. You'd also understand that "gross negligence" alone has never been used to convict in this kind of case. And that some court precedence says it would be unconstitutional to do so. With Trump, we have MOUNTAINS of mens rhea evidence. We don't have that with Biden.

 

It's different from Trump's because Biden was never not President then and had no authority to be in possession of those stolen classified documents. A dead to rights case but Biden not mentally capable of being taken to trial. Nothing you can say about Trump mitigates Biden;s violations of the Espionage Act.

Gross negligence can and has been charged throughout history of the country and can land you in jail. If Biden took them by accident and they were discovered in an unsecured location that is a gross negligence violation and a felony.

Again you fail to address the evidence against Biden I just reminded you of, the interview with the ghostwriter and Biden telling him he and classified information stored in his basement and even his staff didn't know about it and he showed it to him. Plus all the other classified docs which would have had to be confiscated under illegals acts for it to be in his garage and other unsecured locations.

 

There is no law granting FORMER presidents to keep these documents. The law says the opposite.

 

The PRA guaranties them access to them and majority control of them, the NA retains ownership but cannot deny Presidents access to their records and that includes the ability to be in possession of them. Many of them will be in their own library and but in the meantime as they write the memoirs and prepare for their libraries the have full access to all their records.