DONALD TRUMP JR., SENTIENT POND SCUM, IS SELLING T-SHIRTS MOCKING THE FATAL ALEC BALDWIN SHOOTING

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I think it started before that during Obama's term. Everybody that criticized him was called racist.

    As godzillic bubble and it is about opening his big fat mouth and I think these are his Just desserts.
     
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    BRAVO!!! I too choose NOT to own or even handle a gun. Don't need it, Donn't want any part of it....

    BTW: Don't obsess about CDA influencing the US..............CDA is very very different from the USA.........It is less obsessed with weapons and more humanity oriented......... making it a pretty good neighbor.
     
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    Donald Trump authorized airstrikes on Afghanistan that resulted in a 300% increase in civilian deaths.

    No wonder he rolled back Obama Era laws that initially restricted the use of air drones outside of wat zones without permission.
     
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    I think you are right. I'm still doing research for a political project, and ran across some stats of congressional productivity and the increasing empowerment of the executive branch- what might be called an internal coup designed to dodge the normality of process. This has become abusive and very adversary, creating a lot of hostility. When did this begin in earnest? 2008. May well be all part of the same plan.
     
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    Alex Baldwin spent 4 years dedicated to painting Donald Trump and his supporters as evil murderers. What has happened to Alex would be an example of poetic justice if it weren't for the actual innocent people that were shot and murdered by him.

    Baldwin played Trump on SNL and once referred to the president and his supporters as a gallery of monsters'.

    Baldwin said 'Bury Trump in a Nazi graveyard and put a Swastika on his grave'.

    And you lefties have the nerve to bitch about the sale of a harmless T-Shirt? LMFAO! Get a life you libs!
    You lefties sure can dish it out, but none of you can take it when a righty fires back at your overly sensitive touchy feelings.
     
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    So?? Seems that the Trumpsteers have a vile vocabulary for anyone that is a dem or lib.....

    And the language that Trump himself uses on those he attacks..........wich is anyone he dislikes or opposes him.........or thinks differently from him.
     
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    EXCUSE Me!

    Just Because I Choose Not To Own A Gun
    does not mean I approve of current gun laws.
    No License
    No Registration
    No Permit, open or concealed carry
    THE CRIME IS THE UNLAWFUL DISCHARGE
    ESPECIALLY INJURING ANOTHER


    COMPRENDE?
     
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    I think it really began when Obama won the nomination.

    He was a bit of a media darling and I do have to hand it to him for it his charisma. You seemed to 50 aesthetic of a politician that the left really likes kind of like a professor like character. And any criticism of him was immediately addressed by the media. I'm going to coin a term right now and call this social shielding. It's been used before and since. One media character that comes to mind is David Hogg. Any criticism of hog was met with statements to the effect of you must hate children.

    I think this social shielding is the whole purpose behind protected classes. If you criticize someone who happens to be parents gender it's because you're a trans fault if you criticize someone who's gay it's because you're a homophone if you criticize someone who's Muslim or Islam it's because you hate Muslims.

    People do this because the criticism is apt basically when somebody calls you a name or says you hate so and so which is just calling your name whatever triggered that is the argument you need to hammer on because that's the one that can't address.

    So we had the most cast with Barack Obama as President and he represented everything the left wanted with regard to politics. When we elected Donald Trump who is anti-obama essentially. His charisma is on a whole different level. His wit isn't like a scalpel it's like a chainsaw. He seems to be very unsophisticated with regard to style and manner. And he told the media what he thought of them he did not try to play Kate them in the least and that was the biggest offense.

    From the leftist perspective Obama created this wonderful framework that a person you should live up to to become president and Donald Trump destroyed it within a week.

    And if you like to Donald Trump you're all about the destruction of this beautiful framework and that's where the utter rage comes from.

    Think of the people who voted for Obama when kids in high school that got picked on and then they went to college and found that one professor that saw something at them and nurtured it. That's what Obama was the cool professor. Now think of Donald Trump as the jock that probably give these kids wedgies in high school.

    I know it may seem irrational to look at it this way but I think that's the way they look at it. Think about the words that they use to describe the president.

    All my life I've heard people say things like he doesn't look very presidential or he looks very presidential. This is just acknowledgment of sophistication or the appearance thereof.


    I'm sorry if that got a little long-winded
     
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    The question that comes to mind....... is Do folks know what it means to look presidential?? and why is it important?? Is it all about some kind of fantasy image that exists in the movies......... or form the Kennedy era..........when a handsome man became POTUS and had a superb command of the English language and oratory skills. He is a tough act to follow when it comes to IMAGE and PRESIDENTIAL..........
     
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    Luc, thanks for sharing this insider information. Do you mind answering a couple questions for me?

    1. Is the armorer assigned to specific sets or to specific weapons? I'm curious because if the armorer is supposed to be near wherever a weapon is being used for practice or filming, what happens if other actors are also practicing or filming nearby? In other words, can there be more than one armorer on a set and each is assigned to stay with a certain number of weapons or is one armorer accountable for ALL the weapons on the set? I would guess they have more than one simply because different scenes are being filmed around the clock and a Western would have a lot of weapons but, as I'm not in that field, I don't know how it works.

    2. Secondly, in this specific fatal shooting, I'm still unclear if Baldwin aimed the gun at the woman or the gun discharged her direction. I would imagine an investigation will answer that question and the DA will decide who is at fault here and to what degree.
     
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    it's not so much about what it means linguistically but what it means culturally.

    And yes we know what it means. It refers to a level of sophistication, poise and etiquette at certain times.

    This is why people talk about culture War. They disagree on what good sophistication etiquette and poise means. And further the value of it.

    Some people value it and think it's important others do not.

    I probably identify as a Philistine. The concept of sophistication is just an excuse to sell invisible clothes to a gullible emperor.
    This is what I was talking about when I said what it means culturally.

    It seems to change with the culture of the country. And it seems to very widely as to who it appeals to.

    For example I've been a more right-wing voter for many years, and I've always despise one thing about the right wing. That is the purity spiral. The importance people please son how morally standing politician is.

    I always admired the Democrats for their loyalty to the party. They seemed to understand that the people they elected to positions weren't perfect and they didn't expect that from them.

    Trump seem to represent an end to that in the Republican Party. He isn't perfect he's done some morally questionable things like all of us have. Knowing that the Republicans went ahead and nominated him anyway which I was flabbergasted when that happened. I thought for sure they were going to play it safe and go with Cruz.

    But things really changed in that era Democrats lost that loyalty that I admired and they appear to you be purity spiraling within the party and Republicans have the same to step out of it for the first time since ever I'm not sure
     
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    It seems that both parties are destabilizing......... and that is very concerning.........as it creates an environment for a "strong man" type with authoritarian bent to come in and take over. One is impatiently waiting in the wings .....
     
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    Yeah it's dangerous times. Especially with the sewing of fear regarding the virus and everything around it.

    Authoritarians normally come to power by claiming to be focused on your safety of your protection.

    Fear is a powerful tool.

    And it reminds us of the deep and true meaning of the phrase the only thing to fear is fear itself.
     
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    This was a single action revolver. Once that hammer is back, it only takes a light pull on the trigger for it to go off. In order for the bullet to hit the woman, it had to be aimed at the woman when it was fired.

    As producer, Baldwin is responsible for the set and everything that takes place on that set. Additionally, he was the person in control of that gun when it went off.

    There is zero excuse for this happening. There may be others who contributed to the accident, but Baldwin is ultimately and completely responsible.
     
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    So?? My message still exposes the weak-kneed feelings of the lefties as they can dish it out but can't take it when it gets thrown back into their face.
     
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    I would agree. The basics of gun handling say you never point a gun at anything you don't intend to shoot- even an unloaded gun. Long long ago, my grandfather gave me hell for pointing a toy cap pistol his way. Every one who is handed a gun first checks to be sure it's not loaded, or what state it is in. The person who hands it to you should have already done that, so you are doing in as a redundant process to double check and provide you with personal confidence. While it's obvious some serious error took place- proper gun handling would have prevented the harm.
     
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    Thanks for your post. I have a clearer picture of what happened that day. I know it was a long time between animals rights laws on movie sets and child actors' rights on sets so maybe we have a few more decades to go to get this issue addressed. There is no reason anybody anywhere should ever point a weapon at someone unless they are intending to kill them in self-defense or in defense of another person.

    Hollywood wants to make "it bigger and better and more colorful" but, at the end of the day, we just need to get over this insatiable need to have everything sparkle and bigger and bolder all the time. A woman is dead and another person was injured. That's two people too many. They need to get this figured out. As you stated, it's simply not acceptable.
     
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    Interesting to hear protest from the people who started the slander of a candidate prior to him being elected, who have called him every name that they could think of, and have discarded the social value of respect, discarded self respect, have turned their barrage of hate loose on all those who do not agree with them- and generally continue to display the attitude of juvenile street thugs.

    Makes you wonder where their head has to be at to rationalize that.
     
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    Yes.....fear if very powerful.........and useful tactic. for some.

    Fearing a virus.........is one thing.......and real.

    Fear of one mans' vindictive conduct is quite antoehr.........as we are seeing in the GOP. They are terrified of Trump........and don't dare say something he won't approve of.

    The only one with guts and values is Cheney .......and look at how they are treating her......... and all because she peaks truth to power.

    When POWER become important than democracy ........there is a problem. (regardless of party ......)
     
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    Right idea. Wrong man.
     
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    OR......maybe they know when it is just wise to walkaway......;-) and not say anything....... that would get into a circular engagement ../interaction.
     
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    One should wonder just how white liberals are comfortable with their radical left and its CRT core base literally calling them white supremacists--just like they're calling you, Trump and myself deplorable white supremacists. And to think that these name calling phonies are upset with Donald Trump Jr. for playing their game is just plain hilarious and Trump Jr's humorous mocking of Baldwin should be reason enough to give him the leading role on the SNL show this Saturday by replacing any and all of those humorless anti Trumpers that are currently taking up space on that show.
     
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    fear should make you cautious. That's when it's useful. If it's to the point where you need someone to protect you. As if you need the government making laws that's when it's problematic.
    I don't think Trump wields that kind of power the GOP are terrified of their constituency and that's how it should be.
    that's false she actually speaks for power.
    You should look up George Orwell's list of meaningless words.
     
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    There's usually only one main head of each department, and one or more multiple assistants underneath that person. This is usually determined by the budget of the film, and we already know that on this production many departments were understaffed, including the armorer, who others that were offered the position turned down because they wanted only one armorer to do all the work. The only time I can see another weapons expert there would be if they are using a rare vintage piece from a private collection, at which point there may be a stipulation that someone from the vintage collection be on set for the safety of the rented item (and probably an insurance mandate too), which means they have to pay that person and provide transportation and housing too. You also see this when actual US military equipment is used in films too.

    As to your second question; they were filming or practicing for the shot, that would have Baldwin pull out the gun from a holster in the church and aim at the camera. There are typically 4 people that are always around the camera shooting a scene; the camera operator, the 1st AC (assistant cameraman, also known as a focus puller), the Director of Photography, and the Director. Sometimes the DP is also the cameraman, again, depending on budget and production. The only time they may lock-off a shot and have no one around the camera is when explosions are being filmed.
     
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