Donation discussion - Official thread

That's just it, it kills conversations. I could make up any claim but then fall back on me not having a source if anyone questions it. It just can't be believed.

 

But people have the choice to take it how they wish. If someone makes a claim I find interesting, or challenges things the way I see them... I might research it myself.
I don't think a rule like that does any good. It is too easily abused, and misinterpreted by mods.

Say you provide a link backing what you say, at least to you it does.... but someone else doesn't so (you know how they get, it must be word-for-word), so they report you and it's removed because someone reported. Mods aren't going to read through the links to see how it might apply. They don't have the time, or interest. So they will act blindly.
You should see some of the harmless stuff that already gets removed. Leaving such a vague rule open to interpretation is a mistake.

Not every rule benefits a forum.


Although....
I would like a rule that says no more than 10 threads created per day, by a single member.
I can think of a few anti-Right, anti-Christian, Pro-Abort members who wouldn't have their names plastered all over the first page of "Today's Posts".
G, C, A, & F.

 

Umm...anyone who "pays to play" only to find himself banned for no good reason?

I never held a gun to the site owner's head to prevent him from requiring "pay to play", or to yours to make you subsidize "freeloaders" like myself...so I won't be guilt tripped into donating.

I'd prefer straight up responses from the owner.

No way the acrimony from that "playpen" won't bleed over into the rest of the board.

 

Some places have forums like that, not just threads. Often named "The Dungeon", etc.
Only members can read them.
I think they can be successful if handled correctly.

 

My 1st experience in a forum like this was a site with no moderators. It was called AWE(argue with everyone). Some real nasty stuff but it was all known before hand. Anyway, I came here because that site couldn't afford to stay afloat.

 

Actually, it allows for voicing of an opinion on someone/something, that the person no longer has to hold in.

It's better to give people an outlet.. than to have it fester and almost come out every time they post in the other forums.
In a forum like Army suggests, it would be safe from the eyes of the casual visitor.

I have it on my forum, and it seems to help.
It's not a political forum, but I also have an "off topic" forum for political discussion/complaining.
Both of those seem to keep the relational problems out of the valued forums.

 

It sounds like some want a contract. How fragile the world has become. Look, I am no angel but the word "Donation" means just that. No strings attached.

Are people really this invested into a forum that without any guarantees they hesitate? If I get slapped down my life continues. I do not shrink up and turn into dust because I can not log in.

I am not getting this attitude.....If one is this fragile on forums it makes me wonder how people survive outside the forum.

Maybe I should shut up, I am not a good spokesperson for the forum.

 

Censorship hasn't been a problem for me on this site, but it has on other sites. I really detest locked threads and moderators who hate having their decisions publicly challenged. There should always be a public subcategory where moderation decisions can be challenged and defended. If moderators haven't miscarried justice then they should have absolutely nothing to worry about.

Echoing PCFExploited a bit...if a non-profit wants my money...then the bare minimum requirement is complete transparency. I don't earn my money just to have it flushed down the toilet by organizations that do not endeavor to minimize their operating costs and maximize their revenues. I'm not saying that this applies to this website specifically, I'm just saying that I don't know if it applies to this website specifically. Basically, I can't make an informed decision in the absence of relevant information.

Along the same lines, I'd have to know exactly how much money an organization has received in donations. With regards to this forum specifically...I think it would be great if there was a single page that listed donors and the total amount that each one has donated. Of course donors should have the option to remain anonymous...but giving credit where credit is due is a pretty basic way to help encourage donations.

The donors on this page should be sorted according to how much they've donated. Whoever has donated the most should be at the top of the list. Plus, every donor should have the option to include a link of their choice next to their username. For example, I'd either include a link to my blog or to the tax choice facebook page.

Also, I'd have absolutely no problem with the top donor receiving a reasonable amount of ad space at the top of every page. If they've donated more than anybody else to help keep this place running, then there's absolutely no reason that this forum can't send some traffic to their favorite website.

If somebody didn't like the ad then they would be more than welcome to donate more money than the top donor. A bidding war for that space would certainly benefit this website.

 

Whodathunkit?

Don't kid yourself. The overwhelming majority of people who post there will exit that forum angrier than when they entered.

Like who?

I have no idea how this question makes any sense.

 

No worries, have a good evening.....stay safe.

 

A contract? Really?
If somebody asks me for something I seem to think it's reasonable to ask for something in return. Is that a contract to you?

That's a "unique" view of things.

 

That's just it though, the scenario that you gave is what a debate is about. A person isn't going to report that to the mods. They're going to debate the interpetation of the data. Giving a source means you understand where that person is coming from, and you can debate that. Not knowing where is just a conversation killer.

That sounds like a good rule to add.

 

Depends on what you are asking for in return, and yes it sounds contractual. When I donate to the Red Cross, Salv. Army my $10.00 is dropped in the bucket and I walk away. Same goes for this forum. I do not expect anything in return.