Don't Blame Biden

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    And how would that have changed anything? The rabble turning a protest into a riot were intent on doing what they went there to do. We saw it over and again in 2020.
     
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    Wrong!

    Then how can a false premise
    contribute to discussion?


    Biden is a hypocritical RepubloCrat!
    A Wall St, Democrat.
    Senator from the iddy biddy State of Delaware
    and all their corporate & union corruptions.
    How about that for a premise? :woot:

    BTW how did a third tier Democratic candidate
    suddenly start winning primaries so late in that season?



    Moi :oldman:


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    Stop :flagcanada: Election Interference
    Witness Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan
     
  3. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Dude, they were Trump supporters. They were reading his tweets over megaphone during the attack. Think.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't think I've ever seen anyone play the dodge game any better.
     
  5. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No connection there.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He did offer National Guard Support BEFORE! Nanci declined. Just a thought. Things were heated then and they still are!
     
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    The way our system works is whatever happens during a president’s term, that president is either given credit or blame. That comes with the job. Most of us aren’t rational thinkers and if some of us are, we don’t take time to delve into the intricacies of the problem to realize a president doesn’t deserve the credit or the blame heaped on him. It’s far too easy for Democrats to give Democratic presidents credit and praise while blaming and condemning Republican presidents. Vice versa is also true, Republicans giving GOP presidents all the credit and blaming Democratic ones. I suppose that is called partisan politics.


    Swing voters, independents are caught in the middle not knowing whether to give credit or blame. So in good times, thickening wallets they’ll vote for the party in power, in bad times, thinning of wallets, they vote for the party out of power. In our monopolistic two-party system, our politics is simple.
     
  8. fmw

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    Some were, some were not. Obviously you didn't interview them. The majority of those people didn't go to the capitol to create mayhem. A few did and they turned it into a riot. The kinds of people who would get involved in political protest like that are like sheep. They are followers, not leaders. This was a replay of the hundreds of riots we saw in 2020. The only difference was the politics motivating the riots.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about not holding the rally at all since it was founded on a colossal lie? Or not sending the mob to the Capital to stop Biden's certification. Or immediately sending out social media messages to stop the violence once it started. Or calling in the NG instead of watching the riot on TV. Or not sending out this tweet.......“Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!” Or not ignoring pleas from congressmen, friends, and family to do something to stop the violence.
     
  10. precision

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    Yeah I bet you are tired of that Goebbels 'zero, nada zip' crap.
     
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    Yep! True that. And that's a very big problem in this country and the whole world today. The US government is basically a tool that serves the interests of the Wall Street investor class.
     
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    I hate to say it, but the root actually has to do with the fact that there are just some basic problems with democracy and the notion of universal suffrage. That's not a politically correct thing to say, but its the truth.
     
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    There was nothing to dodge because you were throwing at the straw men you created, not me.
     
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    That's right, I have no connection whatsoever with arrogant right wing holier than thou folks.
     
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    Calling real things straw men.... is dodging. Not changing reality, just dodging.
     
  16. yabberefugee

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    you seem to be holier than thou in your own right.
     
  17. Moi621

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    @precision
    I just recently began to follow your uploads
    and find an above average interest.
    Reading is difficult for me so I tune out with
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    @precision has some "good" uploads.
    :( The quoted is not among them.



    Label does not equal, "guilt". :worship:

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    I agree. Lots of problems.
     
  19. precision

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    Distinguishing reality from illusion is a task that has exercised the greatest of minds for thousands of years. It is not a trivial task and requires quite a bit of thought. There is a difference between what you think you know and what you know in reality. As the great Walter Lippmann has said, there is a difference in the world as it exists in reality and the world as it exists in the minds of men. For evidence of this in this very thread, saying that the adage of teaching a man to fish is a parable in the Bible, when in reality there is no such story in the Bible, illustrates the point quite well.
     
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  20. precision

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    More brownie point to you, oh lowly one who art beneath me, for using the word "seem."

    Yeah, it would "seem" that way to you because your reply is a reflection of the internal attempt in your mind to put me beneath you.

    Think about it.
     
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    Last things first. I am not exactly sure what you mean when you point out that "Label does not equal guilt." If you mean that I have accused ALL so called conservative of being holier than thou religious fanatics, then you have misunderstood my intent. But it is a fact, that some of them are that way, and I provided an example with the video I posted.

    Now, something of deeper substance, you have rightly stated that Biden is a Wall Street Democrat. To be clear, Wall Street in this context, refers to the investor class in the United States. Since Wall Street in New York is a primary center of activity for such persons, Wall Street can be used to refer to them.

    The US government, in particular its foreign policy, has become a tool of the investor class in the United States. How does Wall Street accomplish this? One way it does so is through think tanks like the Council On Foreign Relations (CFR). Wall Street corporate interests fund the work of the CFR, which in turn becomes a source of the ideas that make it into the concretized activity of US foreign policy. Not only that, but the CFR serves as a source for the talent that makes it into influential roles in US government foreign policy. A glaring example would be Henry Kissinger, a former CFR scholar who later became Secretary of State of the United States.

    Because the CFR funds the work of its scholars, the ideas that make it into US foreign policy are ideas that meet the approval of the investor class in the United States. Otherwise, they would never see the light of day. Therefore, as an example, we see that US foreign policy sought to undermine and support the overthrow of the democratically elected Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. Although Chavez posed no military threat to the United States, his ideology did not meet the approval of Wall Street. Therefore US foreign policy supported his attempted overthrow.
     
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  22. precision

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    Yes there are many problems. One of which is that how do you form a PROPER consensus amongst an electorate that is mostly uninformed, has no time or interest in the subtle nuances of policy, or has no access to genuine information concerning world events.
     
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    A casual reference- not one meant to or having any impact on the point. It's actually a proverb credited to the Chinese.
    It is however- equally logical and legitimate as a reference to human behavior, in any language from any source..... and I think an intelligent person would address the relevance of the point, not the source.
    So the point illustrated here- is that you missed the point in the first place.

    That is indeed a variable in the way people think; missing the relevance, focusing on what is irrelevant to validate argument. It's unfortunately something many do habitually.
    Most of what we do is superficial, not fundamental in terms of how it affects our quality of life, our understanding. We chase the sparks so to speak, while the relevant issues are grinding us down. Thus- we produce chaos rather than accomplish progress...... And while every species of life on earth is more efficient than we are, by a wide margin, we keep doing the same thing over and over without learning.

    What you might consider is the quote from Charles Kettering, below. Failing to understand what you think you know usually means you hold an empty sack; like playing poker, knowing the name of every card, but having no idea which hands are valuable.
     
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    No its not that I missed the point. The point is that you actually thought it was a quote from the Bible and its not. In other words, you thought you knew something, but what you thought was not correct.

    That is true, and using the accumulation of wealth as the measure of the value of human being is very superficial and creates chaos. Its as superficial as using the size of a man's penis to measure a man's manhood.

    Agreed.
     
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    That is a fairly arrogant attitude if you ask me. But you didn't.
     

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